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What should the next step for the US in Afghanistan?

More combat boots on the ground
More military advisors for training only
Use military contractors like Blackwater rather than US troops
More fighter airplanes and weapons for Afghan Military
Full withdrawal of troops
Another strategy. Please share.

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11. Stewart Riley
     (8/20/2017 6:51:04 PM)
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Not only is that not original, it's never actually worked except when the occupiers were willing to commit genocide to make it happen. Are you really suggesting that we "destroy the village to save it" once again? There is nothing less that will make us anything but an occupier and invader in Afghanistan, and that will only make it different because there'd be no one left, friend of foe, to call us invaders. It's also completely counter to every value we're supposed to hold as Americans. It makes us no better than those we would oppose. What your suggesting is what we've done since Bush took us into this war, and it won't work any better now than it has, just make more enemies faster than we can kill them.

Tams is right, it's long past time that we let the Afghans deal with their own problems.

12. Noel Meyer
     (8/20/2017 7:17:24 PM)
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On "60 Minutes" tonight the question of artificial intelligence in drones comes us. Better, faster decisions in machines than humans can make to the base question becomes "Why not allow machines to kill terrorists directly?" It is the generals, the soldiers who are asking ' Should not humans be killed through review and authorization by humans even when artificial intelligence in machines could do the work quicker and better?'

Just how many no-win wars do Americans think they need to fight?

Was it not that famous American general Eisenhower who won the war against the Nazis about how America should fear the military-industrial complex?

Yet here after almost 20 years of this new asymmetrical war, America finds itself being led by a novice, an incompetent like Trump and the poorly skilled appointees Trump has put into power.

13. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (8/20/2017 7:38:59 PM)
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Thanks for the thumbs up Stewart.

14. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (8/20/2017 8:42:42 PM)
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It seems to me originally, we were in Afghanistan because it was a haven for Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. Now that bin Laden and Al Qaeda have been dispatched, I do not understand it's continued strategic value to us. The Taliban is a repressive, totalitarian, brutal and backward force but, it is the Afghans that must choose their future, not us.

If the Afghans people choose the Taliban through their actions or inactions, then it really makes no sense for us to continue to expend blood and treasure. How is in our interest to continue expending blood and treasure when the outcome is still likely to be as it has always been? What kind of strategy is this, one designed to break us?

Einstein said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. So, IMO and, given my current understanding why we are there, it is not reasonable for us to continue to expend American lives and treasure. We should withdraw.

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15. D James
     (8/20/2017 9:44:35 PM)
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You're wrong. I never said a thing about occupying or nation building or anything of the sort. What is it you don't understand about my basic ideals of (1) kill those who want us dead (2) befriend and support those locals who merit our future national security aims and (3) go home?

16. Charlie Wilson CEOExpressSelect Member
     (8/20/2017 9:49:42 PM)
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Without all the knowledge that the President has been presented with, I don't feel qualified to make a judgment.

But, one thing that needs to be remembered is that without restraint, the Taliban will threaten the nuclear resources in Pakistan.

Plus, if we pull out of Afghanistan, will that reduce our options of dealing with Iran?

So, first of all, what are our objectives in Afghanistan? If continuing to do what we currently doing there helps to deal with the nuclear issue in Pakistan & a whole lot more in Iran, is that sufficient reason to maybe increase our troop level some? Without more information, I'm not sure how anyone on here can make a wise choice.

17. M Bathurst
     (8/20/2017 9:55:36 PM)
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Well said. Thoughtful post. Good questions.

But, don't worry, I am sure the progressive geniuses will tell us what to think

18. Charlie Wilson CEOExpressSelect Member
     (8/20/2017 10:00:44 PM)
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James Mattis is a "poorly skilled appointee"?

Noel, could you do better than he, or do you know someone with the skill, knowledge, experience, and intelligence to deliver such advice?

19. Charlie Wilson CEOExpressSelect Member
     (8/20/2017 10:02:56 PM)
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Thanks M!

20. Charlie Wilson CEOExpressSelect Member
     (8/20/2017 10:07:10 PM)
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Surely, you will not let post with Message ID #289274 remain on here.
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