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Do the newly declassified and mostly released documents suggest to you that there was a conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy?

Yes - Oswald couldn't have done it alone
No - there still is no evidence of a second shooter
Maybe, but it's too soon to tell
We'll never know
Something else — what?

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1. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (10/29/2017 2:59:55 PM)
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Nearly 55 years after President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, the government has declassified and released most (many?) of the files that have been sealed these many years. Those remaining under seal reportedly contain references to people still living or classified intelligence methods.

From the BBC, here are a few of what this publication deems "most interesting points so far."

FBI concerned about conspiracy theories
In a memo written the day assassin Lee Harvey Oswald was killed, FBI director J Edgar Hoover expressed concern about the spread of conspiracy theories.

'The thing I am concerned about is having something issued so that we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin,' he said.

FBI warned police to protect the killer
Oswald, who shot and killed President Kennedy, was quickly arrested and charged. But two days later Oswald was shot dead in the basement of the Dallas police department by Jack Ruby, a local nightclub owner.

But could more have been done to protect him?

One memo reveals the FBI had warned Dallas police of a death threat made against Oswald.

FBI director J Edgar Hoover said: 'We at once notified the chief of police and he assured us Oswald would be given sufficient protection. However, this was not done.'

RFK's 'Marilyn Monroe suicide plot'
The FBI warned the president's brother, US Attorney General Robert F Kennedy, his alleged affair with Marilyn Monroe would be exposed in a book.

A letter on 7 July 1964 from the bureau to the younger Kennedy said the paperback, The Strange Death of Marilyn Monroe, would allege he had 'an intimate relationship with Miss Monroe'.

According to the FBI, the author would suggest the film star 'was led to believe his intentions were serious' and that RFK had promised to divorce his wife and marry the sex symbol.

But when he refused to do so, Monroe 'threatened to expose their relationship' and ruin his presidential ambitions.

The FBI said the book would allege that RFK took 'drastic action' by plotting to have Monroe killed and make it look like a suicide.

Read more at BBC:

Also at BBC, Questions that won't go away:
While we never may know the full story, are we a few thousand documents closer to it?
  • The official explanation, The Warren Commission Report, concluded both Oswald and Ruby acted alone. No conspiracy. Still believe it?

  • So many people say there was a second shooter. Does the Zapruder film suggest additional operatives or just add more speculation?

  • Other investigations:
      In 1968, a panel of four doctors 'supported the medical conclusions of the Warren Commission;'
      In 1975, the Rockefeller Commission found 'no credible evidence of any CIA involvement;' and,
      In 1979, the House Select Committee on Assassinations largely supported the Warren Commission - but said there was a 'high probability that two gunmen fired at President Kennedy.'

  • If you were alive in 1963, what do you remember about that day and the days that followed?

  • Oswald - a self-proclaimed Marxist - visited the Cuban and Russian embassies in Mexico City in September 1963, two months before President Kennedy was shot. Do you think Oswald had help from government — either the U.S. or a foreign power?

  • Can you think of why "RFK's Marilyn Monroe suicide plot" documents have been under seal in the same boxes with the assassination files?

  • Where do you think the story will go from here?

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2. Gary Patishnock CEOExpressSelect Member
     (10/30/2017 9:28:47 AM)
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No. Not the Kennedys, not Reagan, sorry. Make a case for Pope John Paul II? But of course.

3. Gary Patishnock CEOExpressSelect Member
     (10/30/2017 9:32:55 AM)
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See the old BBC Science Fiction show Red Dwarf, episode "Tikka to Ride" at Perhaps that is the best explanation for the second shooter theory (LOL).

4. D James
     (10/30/2017 9:53:23 AM)
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Not in the least. The case was closed for good reason long ago. Oswald, a leftist and Soviet/Cuban fellow traveler, did not have to resort to any high dudgeon to pull off this assassination. Jack Ruby was well known to DPD and had easy access to the parking dock to exact his justice against Oswald. All the rest of the theatrics, from Jim Garrisons show "prosecution", to Hollyweirds continual attempt to make a buck are simply empty. If anything the sideshow surrounding the Kennedy family with their fascination with women not their wives, their involvement with organized crime (how do you think Papa Joe became the sole source of Scotch whiskey into the US during the Prohibition years?), and future proof with many of their progeny that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, makes for more compelling human interest.

5. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (10/30/2017 10:03:40 AM)
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You're no fun. (I think it was J Edgar and LBJ in the Library with a candlestick).

6. Jefferson Packer
     (10/30/2017 10:05:24 AM)
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Get ready for 871 posts about these documents from people who haven't read a single one of them.

7. B Hoskins CEOExpressSelect Member
     (10/30/2017 10:28:42 AM)
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I'll go with Bobby and Marilyn in the pantry with a rope (and blindfold).

8. D James
     (10/30/2017 11:01:52 AM)
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That too!

9. Noel Meyer
     (10/30/2017 11:38:20 AM)
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Yes - Oswald couldn't have done it alone
No - there still is no evidence of a second shooter
Maybe, but it's too soon to tell
We'll never know
Something else — what?

1. No, I won't read the documents.

2. Has anything the CIA or government done in the last 50 years made you suspect the CIA or powerful sectors of the government of lying to the American public or shown the CIA or secret sectors of the government as having total disregard for the laws of this land?

3. CIA financing the war in Vietnam by selling drugs.
CIA overthrowing regimes across the globe.
Powerful sectors of our government killing people or simply making them disappear
Looking at the Trump administration of millionaires and billionaires taking private jet transportation on the taxpayer dime thinking they are owed such luxuries, watching pharmaceutical lobbyists actually writing legislation handcuffing the DEA from stopping that industry from creating the opioid crisis -- how can you trust the government when only the very rich and powerful are helped by such people?

4. Just wondering, after 50 years, how can anything reported in the files still be protected for the sake of 'national security' unless maleficence or criminal action on the part of the government took place?

10. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (10/30/2017 11:40:28 AM)
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I am proud to say, I have never voted for a Kennedy. Papa Joe was a crook!

Except I am fond of Patrick, the only one in the entire lot that is honest with himself....
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