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Do you think that the Trump Tax plan will help the middle class?

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1259. Andy White CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (12/17/2017 4:33:04 PM)
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What is everyone going to do when all the golden geese are dead, and there's no one left to pluck?


1258. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/17/2017 3:46:10 PM)
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Why is the government picking winners and losers? I thought that was something you opposed.

Fox News Sunday's Chris Wallace pointed out to Mnuchin that the Tax Policy Center analysis shows the top tenth of 1% of taxpayers will get 42% of the benefits. Other sources show the 1% will get 60% of the benefits. There's nothing fair about this tax plan.

How about a government that "promotes the general welfare", not just the privileged few?

1257. D Robb
     (12/17/2017 2:32:17 PM)
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Supporters of the bone spur guy may be able to ignore his racism, hate speech, bigotry, and prejudice, but the rest of us cannot. As this article lays out, he has sought and received the support of white nationalist hate groups, and legitimized their abhorrent views.
trump’s “election last year became a major rallying point for white nationalists, who watched as the Republican repeatedly amplified some of their views in campaign rallies and tweets.
“It just absolutely electrified this community,” Keegan Hankes, an analyst for the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hates groups, including the KKK. “They really felt like they had someone to rally behind.””
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-white-nationalists-tapped-into-decades-of-pent-up-racism-to-spark-a-movement/ar-BBGRy2p

1256. M Bathurst
     (12/17/2017 2:23:14 PM)
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Well said, Dr. White.

1255. D Robb
     (12/17/2017 1:42:01 PM)
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Why should the government favor the rich over average citizens because the rich provide the majority of campaign donations? I am lucky enough to be able to afford everything I need and want. Many Americans are not. They are the ones that deserve preferential treatment if anyone does.
I oppose trump's foreign policy that has isolated us, alienated our allies and put us in danger by empowering our enemies. I oppose his bigotry, racism, mysogni, and hatred.
You posted about the need for people to do what is right. trump's the personification of the opposite. That is why I oppose him, and cannot understand your support for him.

1254. Andy White CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (12/17/2017 12:04:45 PM)
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Instead of protesting 'tax cuts for the rich,' why doesn't everyone try to become rich?

Instead of tearing others down, lift yourself up.

Wouldn't it be better to cross over into that land where everyone complains about you?

Work a little harder. Whine a little less.


1253. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/17/2017 11:17:54 AM)
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Wake up Noel. They have been increasing nicely for the past year - partly on expectation of the bill.

If it fails to pass you will have more proof than you ever wanted.

1252. Noel Meyer
     (12/17/2017 10:42:42 AM)
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So tell me supporters of this Trump tax plan-

When will the jobs grow? Next year? Five years? Ten years? 'Whenever'?

Not since childhood, have I heard so many in the Republicans use double, triple superlatives 'historic' 'greatest' 'very very great gift to the American public.

Mnuchin on "Face the Nation" admitted that job creation won't happen till 3 - 5 years if then. Mnuchin tells "Face the Nation" WAGE INCREASES should be seen next year.

Thomas C. will you be increasing wages next year?

Paul Ryan already stated that social entitlements, like Social Security (You paid into it, its NOT free) are now targets to pay for these tax cuts for the richest.

Why would anyone believe this tax plan is for the middle class when that class is already targeted to pay for such deficit increases?

1251. Noel Meyer
     (12/17/2017 10:25:09 AM)
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Fox News Sunday-


Trump to have major speech tomorrow. Trump to call China an economic aggressor. Tariffs and possible trade war with China

Mnuchin now claims economic growth of 4%, 5%, 6% and tax bill will pay for itself.

What Mnuchin would not answer is the chances the government wouldn't shut down two days before Christmas with Congress not funding the government.

Do tell me - how do you justify the tax cuts for the rich when Congress can not fund the government for the coming 9 months?

1250. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/17/2017 10:06:07 AM)
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Your economic theories and tax policies are from the last century Meyer.

As an American Manufacturer, my competitors are no longer 100-200 miles from my plant.

They are on the other side of the world where the tax rate is much less than in the US

Their energy costs, and healthcare costs are much lower. Not to mention all the Government reports, fees and forms that are mandated to be filled out by next month. Federal, State, and local.

China still has a population working not in factories, but in the fields that far exceeds the US population.

From my perspective, this Tax Bill is a step in the right direction, not backwards as the Liberals would like everyone to believe.

The recession of '08 was caused by a collapse in mortgage backed securities. Wall Street and the US Government policies on credit and homeownership were to blame.
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