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841. M Bathurst
     (12/7/2017 6:33:29 PM)
     Message ID #294876

This message is in response to Robert Fahrbach ( message id #294872 )  View All Related Messages

Correct, it does not apply in the lion kingdom; nor would I expect it to. While not meaning to insult lions - their thought process is different than a human.

Your comment regarding the "top of the food chain" is correct. For me, the issue is the fact a number of middle of the chain humans don't expect those at the top to "obey the laws". This problem has been building for a long time in our society. This problem really came roaring out of the woodwork with the Clinton Administration and the happy horsedh!t that his/their followers were willing to accept; because it was their guy/gal. In the past, when a Republican "screwed up"; his/her own ate them. Not with the Left. Only now that many Republicans are tired of playing by the "moral" rules; and, have accepted the invitation to play by the Democrat rules are those on the Left crying "ouch".

Daniel Henninger had a good commentary discussing this matter in a related way.

Basically, the Left has lead the dumbing down of society/culture and are now realizing - ooops.

842. Noel Meyer
     (12/7/2017 7:11:27 PM)
     Message ID #294877

This message is in response to M Bathurst ( message id #294871 )  View All Related Messages

"So what? If the Arab world wanted peace it would happen."

If Chicago wanted peace it would happen? But it doesn't so does that make the Arab world as bad as Chicago or is there another factor occurring?

If American politics wanted peace or even civility, it would happen? But it doesn't so does that make the Arab world as bad as American politics or is American politics as bad as the Arab world or are there other factors occurring?

If America wanted to rebuild its infrastructure it would happen but it doesn't so why does that happen? Does America like to spend billions and trillions more on war than helping to rebuild from hurricanes or from giving the rich tax cuts instead of health care for the needy?

M Bathurst-
Was that peace platter what others were willing to give to get peace or was that peace platter what the Palestinians needed before peace was possible?

843. M Bathurst
     (12/7/2017 7:23:40 PM)
     Message ID #294878

This message is in response to Noel Meyer ( message id #294877 )  View All Related Messages

Your statements are simply silly; and, not related to my post.

Your last question is simply an attempt to misdirect the discussion. You seem to have excess time on your hands - do the research on the offers given to them; which they have rejected - and look for what they have requested. Reasonable to you?

844. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 7:40:02 PM)
     Message ID #294879

This message is in response to Tams Bixby ( message id #294850 )  View All Related Messages

And seriously what had/did his two predecessors accomplished?

More debt. War?

Hope and Change, has morphed into fix and do it now!i Perhaps the Presidents' methods can be brought into question but who really cares?

It's all about results. Without this dead end investigation hanging on his every word things would be moving a lot quicker. The MSM has already tried and convicted him, for what?

845. Andy White CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (12/7/2017 9:19:17 PM)
     Message ID #294880

This message is in response to Noel Meyer ( message id #294874 )  View All Related Messages

Noel, thank you for remembering Pearl Harbor. It's disheartening no one else did.

President Trump didn't forget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L27xuf2d20&feature=youtu.be


846. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/8/2017 12:48:03 AM)
     Message ID #294881

This message is in response to M Bathurst ( message id #294871 )  View All Related Messages

While it may sound as if I'm disagreeing, I'm really not. I just don't particularly care for the damn politicos and their eternal "Keep trying the same solution to a given problem and expecting a different solution" and we both know what that is the definition of.

So while I don't care for Trump or his modus operandi, I suspect it may turn out to be better than what's been going on before. I'll hunker down in my foxhole and wait to see what happens.

847. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/8/2017 12:50:17 AM)
     Message ID #294882

This message is in response to M Bathurst ( message id #294870 )  View All Related Messages

Been tied up w/ tech support almost the entire day. It's now almost midnight, I'm tired and going to call it a day.

Sorry but this one will have to wait until the next time it comes up in a discussion.

848. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/8/2017 12:53:22 AM)
     Message ID #294883

This message is in response to Thomas C ( message id #294879 )  View All Related Messages

Sorry Thomas. Would normally reply but I ask you to read my reply to M (post #294882).

Will reply to you more correctly next go around.

849. D Robb
     (12/8/2017 1:15:54 AM)
     Message ID #294884

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trumpites are ignoring the reality that the Senate Resolution on moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem contains the following language: “ The Senate reaffirms that it is the longstanding, bipartisan policy of the United States government that the permanent status of Jerusalem remains a matter to be decided between the parties through final status negotiations towards a two-state solution."

Again, trump’s withdrawal from international affairs has marginalized and minimalized US influence in the world.

850. D Robb
     (12/8/2017 1:24:02 AM)
     Message ID #294885

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David Brooks’ column this morning is worth reading: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/opinion/the-gop-is-rotting.html
His point is that there is no bottom to the party of trump, and honorable Republicans who thought they could co-exist will have to begin to think about where they can find refuge. trump’s poll numbers contain to tank as he moves further and further right. It is only going to get worse as the Russian investigation continues and the mid-terms come closer.
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