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Do you think that the Trump Tax plan will help the middle class?

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1. M Bathurst
     (11/22/2017 12:30:42 PM)
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I don't think the "Trump Tax Plan" will have any impact on anyone and/or any entity. There is no TTP.

The current tax plan being bantered about is the result of Congressional design and discussion; not the Executive Office.

The design of this forum question had one intent; and, only one intent - to create partisan discourse (and calling it discourse is being polite).

The forum at one point in time was fairly even-handed; no more.

And, the majority of what has been posted in response to this biased question simply convinces me that the Greatest Generation raised a bunch of simpletons.

2. Noel Meyer
     (12/7/2017 8:37:42 AM)
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"The current tax plan being bantered about is the result of Congressional design and discussion; not the Executive Office."

Yes it is never Trump's fault. It is only of REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL DESIGN and DISCUSSION is also unique as Trump's Mnuchin is guiding and trying to sell the dang thing.

"The current tax plan" is just a pipe dream. Based on suppositions and incomplete in DETAILS, it is more trying to fulfill Trump's campaign promises than something CONSTRUCTIVE arrived at with bipartisan debate and business input.

3. D Robb
     (11/22/2017 9:44:31 PM)
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If it passes trump will claim credit in CAPITALS. If it fails, he will blame it on McConnell.

4. M Bathurst
     (11/22/2017 2:02:42 PM)
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Who the hell is talking about fault?

Jeez, it is not Trump's Tax Plan - it is Congress doing the work; where it should be done.

What a partisan jerk. Get back to the basement with your fuzzy slippers; and, take God Robb with you. Maybe the damn thing will flood.

5. D James
     (11/22/2017 1:07:53 PM)
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Haha!

Happy Thanksgiving to you and family along with the relatively sane participants here.

Safe travels to those going to be with loved ones.

6. Domenick Aulozzi CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/22/2017 2:55:07 PM)
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I always like to see your comments on the forum also David. Heading out of the cheesehead state this weekend going to visit Al Frankenville. I hope you have an enjoyable Thanksgiving.

7. D James
     (11/22/2017 2:17:23 PM)
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Oh my! Drive safe. Ez on the lutefisk

8. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/22/2017 1:45:50 PM)
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No sir, the current tax code is a nightmare, not designed for today's global marketplace.

So the choice is fix it, or do nothing.

But then they complain when Apple sports a 19% tax rate and accumulates billions offshore.

9. Noel Meyer
     (11/22/2017 1:25:22 PM)
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"No sir, the current tax code is a nightmare, not designed for today's global marketplace.

So the choice is fix it, or do nothing."


Americans watched REPUBLICANS ONLY deal the same way with healthcare reform. That effort did not even win a majority of Republicans much less the nation.

"So the choice is fix it, or do nothing."

Perhaps tying the corporate tax reduction of 15% to jobs created each 6 months is in order.

Perhaps tying the corporate tax reduction of 15% to the increases in the national debt and deficits should be codified, tollgates so that BAD TAX CUTS are not part of a nightmare tax code entrenched in bad legislation.

Simply tie performance to the tax cuts, no change or no POSITIVE change in debt numbers or good paying jobs = tax cuts removed from those corporations which 'banked' such monies during the Bush tax cuts.

10. M Bathurst
     (11/22/2017 5:39:23 PM)
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I hear the basement and fuzzy slippers calling your name......

11. D Robb
     (11/22/2017 3:34:31 PM)
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Either the self-proclaimed brilliant tax attorney is too dumb to know that US corporate taxes are a band between 15 to 35 percent, or he lies. Take your choice.

12. D Robb
     (11/22/2017 2:58:37 PM)
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Roy Moore's communications director can no longer stand the stench and has resigned.

13. M Bathurst
     (11/22/2017 6:53:36 PM)
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You continue to amuse and amaze me in your willingness to expose your massive lack of financial/tax sophistication and knowledge.

While you are correct; the US tax rate (in general terms) on C Corporations runs from 15% - 35%; there are two catch up points where the marginal rates are 39% (on taxable income over $100,000 and less than $335,000 and 38% on taxable income over $15 million and under $18.33 million). The what I call catch up points are where large corporations lose the benefit of the lower 15%, 25% and 34% rates intended for smaller C Corporations.

Thus, for the large multinational corporations the US should be attempting to draw home and/or attract from other countries, the marginal rate is 35% plus a State income rate (KPMG states the blended rate is 40% - works for me). Keep in mind, most countries do not have the same "State" taxation regimes.

So, tell me if you are making a choice between investing in Ireland where the rate is 15% or the UK where it is less than 20% and in the US where is it 40% - what choice will you make?

Simply stated, you lack the understanding and sophistication to be at the table with the big boys and girls here. Maybe Mr. Meyer has an extra pair of fuzzy slippers for you (pink seems about right).

14. Domenick Aulozzi CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/22/2017 5:57:59 PM)
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Yours are such true statements M. But please always remember, there are some thinking people that actually read this forum and do like to hear actual informed information one in a while.

This forum has taken a strong nose dive since the introduction of a certain someone and the moderators derangement syndrome, but it is still nice when someone with actual knowledge of an issue gives us something to read.

15. M Bathurst
     (11/22/2017 4:41:34 PM)
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Thank you. Have a great Thanksgiving.

16. Domenick Aulozzi CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/23/2017 7:28:54 AM)
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You also M and Happy Thanksgiving to the rest of the forum!

17. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/22/2017 8:06:32 PM)
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I'm retired in the Great State of California. According to everything I know, the Senate version increases my taxes. I'm really not feeling that!

18. scott walker
     (11/22/2017 7:04:15 PM)
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M Bathurst
If the "Trump Tax Plan" would stay in his original concept proposal it may have an effect, however, in order to get it passed it gets ragged up.

Interesting on yesterday’s message,
If there was ever any doubt that the democrat party and the media despise the state of Israel, then today should quash those doubts. It's a conga line of Israel and Trump haters. There’s a long list of politicians who previously supported recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, and are now revealing themselves to be partisan hacks in the wake of President Trump's announcement. To be a statesman you don’t go along with the common mindset, but make decisions that are righteous
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