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Do you think that the Trump Tax plan will help the middle class?

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1. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/25/2017 6:49:00 AM)
     Message ID #294185

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These "cuts" are not about budget deficits.

Commerce has 19,000 employees, can you explain what they do?

Department of Labor has thousands filing out reports that were commissioned in the sixties, no one told them to stop.

Flint, MI had three levels of Government fail them when the City Council decided to switch the supplier due to costs. Local, State, and Federal. The problem still exists with lead levels in the corrosive water.

What happens when government fails? It get rewarded. Bigger budgets.


Were you bounced from the Army due to passive aggressive behavior? They don't like that in the military, line of command and all that.

The Federal Budget is skewed by the population. Too many takers due to useless programs and no population planning.

75 million Americans were born between 1954 and 1964. That demographic has an extraordinary impact upon the Federal Budget.

40 million have emigrated to the US since 1995. That also has an extraordinary impact upon the Federal Budget.

(I noticed you left out Medicaid from your draconian cuts)

Mr. Robb, it's a Holiday Weekend, take some time to reflect, give it a rest for a few days.

2. D Robb
     (11/25/2017 8:18:27 AM)
     Message ID #294186

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I was not advocating cuts to Social Security or Medicare. I was suggesting they should be means tested. The Social Security tax cap on earnings should be eliminated and all earnings subject to tax as part of your simplification of the tax code.
Clearly, our defense investments are not giving us what we are paying for. The Navy is an example, but when the services have to give waivers for mental health and criminal convictions to get recruits you know something is wrong.
Your prejudices are showing.

3. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/25/2017 10:00:48 AM)
     Message ID #294191

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Paul Ryan attempted a means test for Medicare, it was based upon a voucher system

It was soundly rejected and ridiculed by the Liberals.

You folks have no idea what you want. You want other people to pay half your taxes.

How about we send a voucher to Mr. Robb, and he can buy his own healthcare plan? Based upon his age, health condition, and geography? We'll attach a cola, but he will need to shop around a little, and perhaps use a little prudence when spending his medical dollars?

Why should we provide him with a premium plan with an open network?

Raise taxes to balance the budget?

There is always something to spend money on, from free healthcare to enhanced public pension benefits. Take a good look at NJ and CT. Prime examples of what happens. And the cure is more tax revenue?

4. D Robb
     (11/25/2017 3:41:22 PM)
     Message ID #294194

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I am lucky enough to have an excellent health care plan, and don't need vouchers. The reality that single payer is so successful in European countries that they can provide better health care at one half to one third the cost per patient per year than we do in the US continues to escape you?

5. D Robb
     (11/25/2017 11:48:43 AM)
     Message ID #294195

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Explain how reducing revenue and blowing up the deficit further is going to be helpful to any but the uber rich.

6. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/25/2017 11:37:44 AM)
     Message ID #294196

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you are assuming a few things:

Growth of the economy will remain as such under Obamanomics

Cutting the tax rate has historically increase revenue into the US Treasury

The proposed tax reform does not benefit the wealthy

7. D Robb
     (11/25/2017 3:55:29 PM)
     Message ID #294197

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You could not be more wrong. Cutting taxes has ALWAYS increased the deficit. No analysis of this tax cut comes to any conclusion but that it favors the rich. Even with dynamic scoring, nobody predicts this tax cut will result in anything but at least a $1.5 trillion increase to the deficit.

8. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/25/2017 12:09:25 PM)
     Message ID #294198

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Where are you getting your facts? Everything you claim is disputed by the vast majority of economist. http://snips.ly/65U The Market Watch Trump tax calculator reveals I'll pay more. http://snips.ly/19H

Anyone who believes this Trump Senate or House tax cuts will benefit the middle class, the economy, and not the wealthy probably also believes in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus and, that man-made Global Warming is a hoax made up by China.

You can't fix stupid!

9. D Robb
     (11/25/2017 1:42:21 PM)
     Message ID #294199

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Rick, flat out lying or stupid? It's a toss up.

10. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/25/2017 12:46:17 PM)
     Message ID #294200

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D, I would argue the two are not mutually exclusive.

11. D Robb
     (11/25/2017 2:27:52 PM)
     Message ID #294201

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You have a point. I concede.

12. Noel Meyer
     (11/25/2017 2:38:54 PM)
     Message ID #294202

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Thomas C. a.k.a. Hawk-

"There is always something to spend money on, from free healthcare to enhanced public pension benefits."

1. Paying for hurricane rebuilding in Texas.

2. Paying for hurricane rebuilding in Florida.

3. Paying for hurricane rebuilding in Puerto Rico.

4. Paying for wild fire rebuilding in California and most of the West.

5. Paying for DEFENSE in Afghanistan, like bribing al Qada and the Taliban NOT to keep fighting there.

6. Paying for infrastructure rebuilding in Flint, Michigan and other cities across the nation.

7. Paying for repair on existing roads and bridges much less the new ones needed as the population exceeds 310 million

8. Don't even mention paying to explore space, land on the Moon or Mars.

9. Don't even mention solving Zika, police abuse of power, illegal migration.

a. Single parent housewives have to prioritize but not Congress. The Republican Congress of saying "hell no"

b. A coherent strategy of where this nation is going and not the daily whims of a madman or the campaign promises of a despot.

c. Americans here at home who can not afford BIG PHARMA while American pharmacies sell those same drugs abroad for far less

d. Veterans who are not only getting the help that WAS PROMISED but are homeless and considered a drain on the system.

Once upon a time, Americans did what was right not because it was easy but because it was hard and the right thing to do. Now we as a nation can not even agree on what is news or what is true or what American values like protecting women are.

13. D Robb
     (11/25/2017 2:40:39 PM)
     Message ID #294203

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Excellent post. We have a lot of issues that need attention, and what's the priority of this Congress? Tax cuts for the rich
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