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Do you think it's more effective to be for or against something or someone?

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1. Domenick Aulozzi CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/30/2017 11:55:42 AM)
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I am not sure this can be an either or answer. If you have convictions about your beliefs, you will of course be passionate about those convictions and if it is an important enough issue, try to influence others to the validity of your position.

Many times, myself included, we argue about issues that are not all that important. I am hearing Andy in my head right now. I am trying to work on that in my own life. Other things are truly important issues (even life and death issues), those we need not be afraid to argue for our position and against a position we think is truly harmful. I think if you can find a way to discuss the issue or person in a way that stays constructive, you will have a better chance of influencing others. That can be a very difficult thing for me to do sometimes.

2. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/30/2017 12:12:16 PM)
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"I think if you can find a way to discuss the issue or person in a way that stays constructive, you will have a better chance of influencing others. That can be a very difficult thing for me to do sometimes."



Hi Domenick,

I too can sympathize with your conundrum as I too occasionally resemble that problem myself. Cheerio!

3. D Robb
     (12/30/2017 12:01:47 PM)
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What do you consider a life or death issue?

4. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/30/2017 12:29:12 PM)
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Douglas,

One version of such a issue/decision would be "Playing Russian Roulette". Each time it's your turn, the decision of whether or not to pull the trigger is a life or death issue.

And as I said, that's just ONE version of such an issue.

Message edited by user at 12/30/2017 12:30:36 PM

5. D Robb
     (12/30/2017 1:21:32 PM)
     Message ID #295870

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Actually, you made my point. If it is a life or death issue that directly affects you as an individual I can understand being uncompromising. However, if the issue is abstract, i.e., someone else's abortion, marriage, etc., I can't. That's imposing your belief's on others. Its especially confusing when those same individuals talk glibly about murdering 30 million innocent humans because they are afraid.

6. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/30/2017 12:39:23 PM)
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I wasn't trying to "limit" my response to just one arena Douglas.

I simply gave you an example of what you asked about and that's as far as my response was intended to go. Now if that's "limiting" its' reach, then that's your problem because I'm not so restricted.

7. D Robb
     (12/30/2017 6:14:07 PM)
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I have never been stupid enough, or drunk enough to play Russian Roulette. Have you? Perhaps, not the best example.

Message edited by user at 12/30/2017 6:19:08 PM

8. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/30/2017 6:13:02 PM)
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Didn't say it as a "Good" or a "Bad" example. Only said it was an example.

But regardless, whether it's a "Good" example or a "Bad" one, it does make the point.

9. D Robb
     (12/30/2017 6:40:40 PM)
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Tams, you are much more theoretical than I, and you operate in areas that I don't. As an engineer I deal with relevant facts and connections, and processes. That is one of the reasons that we often do not communicate well, and thus do not always understand each other.

10. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/30/2017 7:11:18 PM)
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Douglas,

I was always taught in school that until a person understands the "Theory" behind something, the "Facts" are and remain much more opaque.

Understanding the "Theory" also opens oneself up to understanding much more of the "Possibilities" than does simply understanding the "Facts".

11. D Robb
     (12/30/2017 7:18:09 PM)
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That explains a lot. We engineers work on proven theories which we try to apply in ever more efficient ways. Facts are facts. Some are irrelevant to the problem at hand, but they exist just the same.
trumpites attempt to dispute actual facts with alternative reality. When they don't like news, they declare it is fake. When they get caught in falsehoods they declare they are alternative facts instead of admitting that they repeatedly lie.

12. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/30/2017 7:57:13 PM)
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True enough but I never accepted (either previously or currently) the idea of Alternative Realities as I prefer "Facts" along with my "Possibilities". Alternative Universes on the other hand are still a "Possibility".

13. D Robb
     (12/30/2017 8:19:44 PM)
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Agreed, in fact, it is highly probable that they exist.
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