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1. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 9:14:16 AM)
     Message ID #294383

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You remind me of a movie character who - facing the barrel of a gun and knowing their brains are about to be sprayed all over the wall - spits at their opponent and drops an F bomb.

Doesn't do anything... but it salvages a glint of dignity on the way out the door.

Lol. Knock yourself out.

2. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
     Forum Moderator
     (11/29/2017 9:19:48 AM)
     Message ID #294386

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You remind me of Nero. It didn't end well.

3. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 9:24:22 AM)
     Message ID #294387

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Nero???

Sorry. That's just too intellectually profound for a simple person like myself.

4. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
     Forum Moderator
     (11/29/2017 9:31:02 AM)
     Message ID #294388

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I hope your family is safe when Trump causes a nuclear war to start. As I remember, you are pretty close to DC. Maybe Kim won't be able to aim so well. You need to hope at least. I hope neither your nor my family is impacted.

Not so sure about South Korea. But then, they are foreign, so why should a US citizen care if millions die. They look different and they don't speak English.

But, the stock market won't do so well with world destruction at hand. Oh, well.

5. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 11:58:29 AM)
     Message ID #294394

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I hope so too. I suspect they would be in a great deal more danger from NK - and other nations who would regard our weakness as a 'go sign' - if we let them continue on this path.

Don't you? (Have you forgotten Bill Clinton's deal with NK in which he assured us we have no more trouble from them?)

What are you suggesting we do that Bill Clinton did not already try?

6. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 9:55:40 AM)
     Message ID #294396

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Both State and Defense think negotiation and diplomatic initiatives are the FIRST choice. None of the bone spur guy's senior advisors think that insulting and threatening NK is a good strategy, but the Velveeta Raccoon knows more than the generals. "He's going to handle it."

7. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 9:43:11 AM)
     Message ID #294398

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So do I... and it's being done.

What is the 2nd choice if it fails?

Let me add... that had you read Trump's book on the art of negotiation - you would know that making the alternative to capitulation abundantly clear to your opponent is a major component of successful deliberation.

8. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 1:24:31 PM)
     Message ID #294399

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It is being done but being daily undermined by the bluster and bully of the NY Military Academy graduate who couldn't serve because he had bone spurs, but knows more than the professional military men he professes to respect.

9. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 12:09:13 PM)
     Message ID #294400

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You mean what is the second choice if the Velveeta Raccoon goads Kim into attacking? What do you mean by failure?

10. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 12:07:58 PM)
     Message ID #294403

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Are you suggesting NK will launch a first strike?

If so, we need to erase them this afternoon.

If not, what are talking about?

11. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 11:59:31 AM)
     Message ID #294404

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I asked you what your definition of "failure" is and used that as an example. I also posted that insulting, threatening, bullying a small, nuclear capable nation is not a sensible strategy.

12. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 9:45:43 AM)
     Message ID #294407

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My definition of failure is simple.

If NK does not agree to definitively halt its nuclear program within weeks, we should definitively halt it for them.

On 9/11, we had three plane loads of people who took the liberal approach of wait and see. Not only did they die... thousands of others died with them.

We also had a plane load of people who acted. They died too. But they were heroes for preventing others for dying with them.

Sometimes a win is not ideal... it is simply optimal.

13. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 1:27:25 PM)
     Message ID #294409

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Murdering millions of people because you are frightened? You trumpites want to out Hitler, Hitler and Stalin?

14. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 1:22:20 PM)
     Message ID #294410

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No. It is more like Patricia said... a matter of protecting your family.

Fright and cowardice is associated with the failure to act, not with the courage to act when it is warranted.

15. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 1:17:19 PM)
     Message ID #294412

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International law does not have a stand your ground clause, Robert. What you are so casually suggesting the country do is a war crime, and would probably provoke a nuclear war.
There are multiple reasons that no nuclear nation has ever used nuclear weapons against another nuclear nation. There are multiple reasons why the US policy is that nuclear weapons are only for deterrence.
Your ignorance is showing.

16. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 1:16:46 PM)
     Message ID #294414

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My ignorance? Lol.

Mutually assured destruction requires that BOTH belligerents subscribe to it.

If one does not... it is simply a fart in the wind.

17. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 12:13:53 PM)
     Message ID #294415

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Your childish, trumpian view of the world reveals your ignorance of national defense policy and international law, as well as your amoral views. The US cannot murder millions of N Koreans because you are afraid for your family. The US is not the Philippines. If you subscribe to that you should move to the Philippines.

18. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 10:06:28 AM)
     Message ID #294417

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If you would like to understand the complex problem that is N Korea I recommend you read this article from Foreign Policy: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/11/28/china-should-send-30000-troops-into-north-korea-symmetrical-reassurance

China Should Send 30,000 Troops Into North Korea
The only way to stand down from a nuclear confrontation is to reassure Kim Jong Un that the United States won’t — and can’t — invade.
By Alton Frye | November 28, 2017, 4:46 PM

19. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 9:50:53 AM)
     Message ID #294421

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It appears that trump's bluster towards and bullying of N Korea is solely for his ignorant, shrinking base. Unfortunately, N Korea might not understand that. BEIJING — President Trump pledged Wednesday that “additional major sanctions” would be imposed on North Korea after Pyongyang's latest intercontinental missile test.

Message edited by user at 11/29/2017 9:53:45 AM

20. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 3:15:16 PM)
     Message ID #294424

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No. The element of surprise is crucial to the attack. They are wide awake right now following their latest test. The right strategy is to put them back to sleep and erase them when they least expect it.

21. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 1:37:38 PM)
     Message ID #294428

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No, neither you nor trump really understand the danger inherent in his juvenile tweets and insults. The US has gone from being the leader of the free world to being an object of ridicule, distain, and concern. It is very sad.

22. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 1:30:19 PM)
     Message ID #294430

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Here's a hanky...

23. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 10:11:21 AM)
     Message ID #294431

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You do realize in a nuclear exchange the radioactive fall out travels on the winds around the world or don't you?

24. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 9:53:58 AM)
     Message ID #294432

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I see. So your solution is to allow them to attack us because it will result in only half of the fallout.

Great strategy. I wish NK would adopt it.

25. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 9:52:51 AM)
     Message ID #294433

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Robert, if you took a little time to educate yourself and think about problems you wouldn't have to embarrass yourself with this adolescent posts, or, aren't you embarrassed?

26. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 3:13:01 PM)
     Message ID #294435

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Why? You haven't taken any - and it doesn't keep you from being such a know it all.

27. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 9:58:23 AM)
     Message ID #294434

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In a nuclear exchange there are no winners.

28. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 8:08:26 PM)
     Message ID #294436

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Nope. But in a unilateral attack there may be. (...and it would be a good idea to have it before they are war capable.)

29. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 7:59:44 PM)
     Message ID #294439

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History doesn't support your thesis. There were those that wanted to have a war with Russia before they got the bomb, and then those that wanted to use nuclear weapons against China to prevent them from getting the bomb, and then those that invade Iraq because they thought Saddam had WMD. How did that work out?

30. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 6:09:32 PM)
     Message ID #294440

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Huh? Damn...I didn't even know we nuked them. I thought we only nuked Japan. How did that work out?

(in the future... please stop proving my case... it spoils the fun.)

31. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 10:00:56 AM)
     Message ID #294449

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GWB and the neocons created the present mess in the ME. Even your hero, the bone spur guy, understands that.
Your inability to even remember what unit you were assigned to during your time in the Army says everything I need to know about how serious you were and how committed you were to soldiering. If you couldn't even commit to that, it is clear that you have little interest or knowledge of national defense policy.

32. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/30/2017 7:41:04 AM)
     Message ID #294451

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Did I say I was serious about soldiering? At 18, the only thing I was serious about was sex. (...and let me affirm that GWB was every bit as bad a President as Obama. They both worked for the same elite.)

33. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 10:10:05 AM)
     Message ID #294441

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Doesn't matter, same problem, fallout travels on the wind and circulates the entire globe. You nuke your enemy and a week later you've nuked yourself and ever other living thing on the planet. That's why Mao Zedong called nuclear weapons a "paper tiger".

Not to mention the small detail that NK borders SK, Russia and China. I'm sure they're not keen on exploding nukes on their borders.

I honestly cannot fathom how you and your buddy Trump think or, even that you do.

34. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/30/2017 8:01:16 AM)
     Message ID #294444

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Lol. I admire the way you summarily brush aside huge complex issues that you don't really know much about... and routinely declare them in your favor.

Saves a lot of time.

35. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 10:12:49 AM)
     Message ID #294452

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Summarily dismiss complex issues, naw...., that's more yours and Trump's bailiwick. Without understanding the consequences of uses nuclear weapons, you two are all for it. It seems you two are clueless about nuclear weapons and their consequences.

Nuclear weapons use is the last not the first thing that should come to mind when resolving conflict. Quiet robust diplomacy coupled with sanctions, which apparently Trump and you have rejected, appears to me the proper course.

Threatening a paranoid tyrant convinced that the US is trying to do him in has proven counter-productive. This idiotic course will not cause NK to stand down but may hastens the unthinkable. Trumps a light-weight, egomaniacal, real estate salesman who is only president now due to the Putin and Russian interference. He knows next to nothing about just about everything. Your kind of guy, no doubt.

36. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/30/2017 9:15:59 AM)
     Message ID #294454

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Oh. It's us. And I thought it was you. Shame on me.

37. D Robb
     (11/30/2017 9:03:00 AM)
     Message ID #294437

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You are wasting your time. the bone spur guy avoided service, and Robert spent his at Fort Belvoir supporting training and defending the Pentagon from the protestors. Neither has any idea of how useless and destructive wars are. Just another rat hole to pour money into instead of doing something useful with it by helping Americans get educated or to get health care, or to fix our crumbling infrastructure, or to repair the damage from our recent disasters.

38. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 10:16:26 AM)
     Message ID #294438

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You may be right. You may have learned something from shooting innocent, peaceful Vietnamese that I have not experienced.

39. Noel Meyer
     (11/30/2017 9:31:17 AM)
     Message ID #294418

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D Robb-

"There are multiple reasons that no nuclear nation has ever used nuclear weapons against another nuclear nation. There are multiple reasons why the US policy is that nuclear weapons are only for deterrence."

1. I am not sure current U.S. military rules of engagement do not allow for an American FIRST STRIKE. I remember that under Obama a military review was underway to review American policy of "nuclear weapons are only for deterrence." The only result of that review was BOTH RUSSIA and the UNITED STATES announcing upgrading their aging nuclear defenses.

2.The recent oil spill of the Trans Canadian pipeline resulted in acres of American soil made unusable for farming PERIOD. Now using the experience of America's use of nukes on Japan the logarithmic damage, long term damage to America's land, infrastructure and population is not something understood by most Americans.

Nuclear war since the end of the COLD WAR has rested on the threat of a lone wolf military commander going crazy like in the display "FAIL SAFE" or some terrorist group smuggling inside the nation of a dirty bomb or any level of nuke.

Now we have Mr. Twitter-bully calling out a North Korean brute to see whose is bigger never realizing the cost of going too far. Think the $100 billion in hurricane rebuilding money was hard to find? Think of the never-ending cost of nuclear strike anywhere in the continental U.S.

BTW- what do you think the rest of the world will be doing once the first nuke is used against either nation? Old raccoon-boy will find out he and the way he has run this nation don't have as many friends as he thinks he has.

I wish Victor was here to describe the horrors of nuclear war. The radiation fall out from destroying North Korea on China, South Korea and Japan is a show stopper right up front.

40. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 10:21:27 AM)
     Message ID #294419

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The concept of not disavowing a nuclear first strike was useful in Europe during the Cold War. If the Russians and East Germans invade West Germany the threat that the US might escalate immediately to Nuclear weapons was a useful deterrent. However, that would be under circumstances where the US had already been attacked.
The idea of a preemptive US attack against N Korea is a totally different thing. Such an attack would violate international law and make the US leaders who ordered the attack war criminals.

41. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 11:16:46 AM)
     Message ID #294420

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The concept of not disavowing a nuclear first strike was useful in Europe during the Cold War. If the Russians and East Germans invade West Germany the threat that the US might escalate immediately to Nuclear weapons was a useful deterrent. However, that would be under circumstances where the US had already been attacked.
The idea of a preemptive US attack against N Korea is a totally different thing. Such an attack would violate international law and make the US leaders who ordered the attack war criminals.

42. scott walker
     (11/29/2017 10:41:57 AM)
     Message ID #294406

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D robb, you use the words the Velveeta Raccoon; don’t think would ever called Obama “Big Ears” or “The Great Destroyer”, or “Hillary, Lock Her Up”, so why do you insult a great President Trump.

43. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 11:32:08 AM)
     Message ID #294408

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Is it an insult? He looks like a yellow raccoon, doesn't he? Do you prefer "bone spur guy"?
trump is back to birther nonsense against President Obama. Isn't that a racial slur?
trump invites heroic WWII Navaho code talkers to the WH, supposedly to honor them, and does the ceremony in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson, and uses a racial slur as a joke.
trump retweets a UK an anti-Muslim UK video.
I think your outrage is misplaced.

44. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 11:28:08 AM)
     Message ID #294402

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Interesting piece in WSJ this week....

Post Cold War foreign policy put us to sleep, we thought it was over. Last President shifted foreign policy to human rights, open borders, climate change, and in the meanwhile ignored to dangers.

We can all hold hands and sing camp fire songs....

But, in reality the world has become a more dangerous place. We appeased Jung Sr. that failed. We ignored Russia, and allowed China to become our daddy. Remember "most favorable nation trading status".
I do. That was the day I cursed President Clinton.

Famous quote: "the 80's are calling, they want their Cold War back".

Asleep at the wheel?

It was inevitable.

What if this is as good as it gets? S.Sarandon said if HRC was President, we'd be at war right now. I don't disagree. HRC was a warhawk.

45. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 11:21:47 AM)
     Message ID #294422

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Nice deal ya got going here......moderator?

CurmudgeonExpress.com

This AM: "you are a liar"-Meyer

Funny how the Liberals resort to despicable low-life name calling.

Yes, us conservatives are sarcastic, but we don't fault people for who they are, it never gets personal.

Liar, racist...these are among the worst words a person can use to identify someone.

renewal in 2 weeks, tell me why I should be stay a client?

46. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 11:04:59 AM)
     Message ID #294423

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trump has an amazing capacity to alienate allies and insult friends. British Prime Minister Theresa May on Wednesday condemned him as “wrong” for retweeting of anti-Muslim videos, reviving tensions between the two governments.
“It is wrong for the President to have done this,” May’s office said in response to the retweeted videos, initially posted by British far-right leader Jayda Fransen.
May’s rebuke adds strain to what had been one of the world’s strongest modern alliances. It came after members of the British Parliament spoke out against him for spreading the videos, with several calling his actions “disgraceful.”

47. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 10:55:31 AM)
     Message ID #294443

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Perhaps. But who cares about May?

48. Noel Meyer
     (11/29/2017 12:07:55 PM)
     Message ID #294425

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Thomas you have insulted and resorted to grade school name-calling to many on this forum.

You have posted ridicule of sources used, points of debate against your views and generally thrust your unsupported opinions as facts in discussions which all know but you and Trump to be false.

When you have persisted in posting incorrect information KNOWINGLY what other terminology would you use?

"Funny how the Liberals resort to despicable low-life name calling.

Yes, us conservatives are sarcastic, but we don't fault people for who they are, it never gets personal."


Perhaps you actually believe this lie, but others are calling you out on it.

49. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 12:32:30 PM)
     Message ID #294442

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I don't do that sir.

Sarcasm is different.

50. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
     Forum Moderator
     (11/29/2017 12:14:37 PM)
     Message ID #294426

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Where did Meyer call you a liar?

Please give me the post number. I'll review and act if required.

I will also review the posts that Noel Meyer says you have ridiculed and maligned.

Noel, if you would like to provide post numbers to me, I'll be happy to review.

Sometimes we only see things when we are the recipient. : )

51. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 12:35:26 PM)
     Message ID #294427

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You are like a fire chief harping at a lit cigarette amidst the ruins of the Chicago fire.

52. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 12:30:54 PM)
     Message ID #294445

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#343


Let me give you some advice, CEO to CEO

get rid of the "reply" button, simple solution

Everyone, and I mean everyone, has a right to speak, they don't have the right to condemn folks. Sarcasm, humor, all in good fun.

53. Noel Meyer
     (11/29/2017 12:47:38 PM)
     Message ID #294447

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Patricia,

I did call Thomas C a.k.a. the hawk a liar in post # Message ID #294371
"While I am not an economist, you are a liar, distorter of facts, fake news sucking readers into your argument with no citations supporting your opinions, with no experts supporting your delusions"

It was in response to Thomas's constant name calling such as -

1. CurmudgeonExpress.com Message ID #294422

2. "You have posted ridicule of sources used, points of debate against your views and generally thrust your unsupported opinions as facts in discussions which all know but you and Trump to be false"

Message ID #294425

3. I tried to search "Thomas C" and got many, many postings by the forum not just Thomas C.

In short I got tired of endless belittling of sources supplied when others criticized his views and got tire of endless posting against FACTS real economists held while holding onto the Trump line of lies and mysticism.

If I hurt his widdle feelings I do apologize, however if Thomas is a supporter of "let Trump be Trump" he should understand the frustration normal people have for those constantly spouting such fake news.

54. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 12:43:30 PM)
     Message ID #294448

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May I make a tape of that post? I think you've invented a cure for insomnia.

55. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (11/29/2017 12:56:15 PM)
     Message ID #294450

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Noel,

I understand the frustration on both sides.

Let's not use the word "liar" Call those you disagree with "thrusting your completely unsupported opinions as facts"

Meanwhile,focus on this: No one is talking about the success that Trump had yesterday with getting the budget out of committee.

Why? the fake news president retweeted a fake news video while trying to spew hate. Even right winger Piers Morgan lambasted him.

Video shared by Donald Trump this morning is fake news http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5129743/Trump-video-Muslim-migrant-beating-boy-crutches-DUTCH.html

A video purporting that a muslim immigrant beat up a boy on crutches is FAKE NEWS and a horribly incendiary thing for a fricken' PRESIDENT to do. The only true thing is that a Dutch boy on a crutch was attacked, by a DUTCH MAN. Not an immigrant, not a muslim. the Dutch police in that town are tweeting that Trump is a fool.

56. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 12:53:27 PM)
     Message ID #294459

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Thank you...

Two words I never use, that make me cringe, as it speaks to a person's character, and I do not judge people I don't know, and many that I do know, based upon character.

Liar and Racist.

I may be many things, but I am not those, and neither is Meyer

get rid of the reply button, and people will stop sniping

Big, no huge difference between discourse and sniping...

Message edited by user at 11/29/2017 12:56:48 PM

57. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 12:52:41 PM)
     Message ID #294461

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Thomas, I disagree. The only way you can end nastiness is for individuals to stop attacking other posters. Usually, it results from the nasty posters inability to intellectually defend their beliefs.

58. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 1:14:16 PM)
     Message ID #294464

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This is a nasty forum in a nasty world. That's the reality we live in. Its as good as any, I suppose - insofar as we can't do better... so embrace it and toughen up.

Your alternative is to yield and acquiesce - or be an incredibly phony shrew like Mr. Robb - whose ability to be a two-faced hypocrite is awe inspiring.

Your choice. Reality isn't going to change anytime soon.

Message edited by user at 11/29/2017 1:15:58 PM

59. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 1:02:00 PM)
     Message ID #294470

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Robert, I am an optimist. I have assumed for a long time that you get your "enjoyment" by taking outlandish positions and saying shocking things to get attention. That you don't really believe the nonsense you post. Am I wrong? Time to grow up.

60. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 12:59:43 PM)
     Message ID #294471

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The world is so full of crazy people - like yourself - that there is no moral base left from which to define outlandish. Its all good. Everything is as true as anything else... it just depends on who is viewing it.

So your statement is simply out of date.

61. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 1:20:47 PM)
     Message ID #294474

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No, Robert, facts still matter.

Message edited by user at 11/29/2017 1:21:23 PM

62. D Robb
     (11/29/2017 1:04:06 PM)
     Message ID #294475

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Robert, I agree that you have a right to believe whatever you want to. Neither you nor the president has the right to lie about fake videos and repost them in an attempt to 'prove' and legitimize the awful things you believe. The fact that supposed Christians support judge Moore or the murdering of millions of innocent people is applying.

Message edited by user at 11/29/2017 1:05:38 PM

63. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 2:07:43 PM)
     Message ID #294476

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Three meaningless, say-nothing posts.

Take another three. This time commit yourself to say at least 1 thing that makes sense; 1 that is true; and 1 that is believable.

Take your time.

64. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
     Forum Moderator
     (11/29/2017 1:33:05 PM)
     Message ID #294465

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Two words I never use, that make me cringe, as it speaks to a person's character, and I do not judge people I don't know, and many that I do know, based upon character.

Liar and Racist.


I admire that you have decided to give people the benefit of the doubt.

I agree with the word "liar" as a word to avoid. I do not agree with the word racist. There is a person who is no longer in this forum who made vicious, absurd, and unfounded comments about Jewish people, blacks, and Muslims. They were 100% racist comments. I asked him to leave for forum after telling him to stop countless times.

Sometimes comments are clearly racist with intent.

Rarely is one actually trying to lie. You are correct to give them the benefit of the doubt.


The word Liar should not be used off the playground with the phrase "pants on fire" : ).

65. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 2:25:23 PM)
     Message ID #294460

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Meyer, curmudgeon is a term of affection

And remember this...

There is my truth, your truth, and the truth

when you embrace that thought, you become an independent mind.

66. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/29/2017 1:43:22 PM)
     Message ID #294446

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Thomas,

Haven't read much of anyone's posts for the last week or so (to much worthless and truly forgettable ranting) but just read your post and noticed the following ...

"renewal in 2 weeks, tell me why I should be stay a client?"


I won't comment either way on the balance of your post or any others you have made but WRT this statement, whether or not you renew is entirely your decision but if you feel bad enough to ask such a question in the first place, then perhaps it would be better if you didn't (renew that is). Just saying. Cheers.
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