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1. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/30/2017 2:46:41 PM)
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"Ignore for a moment the hypocritical squawking of Democrats, who supported President Obama in adding $9.3 trillion to the national debt over eight years. Yes, America’s deficit problem is troubling and about to get worse: The Congressional Budget Office forecasts that the public debt will rise from 75.5% of gross domestic product in fiscal 2017 to 85.6% in 2026.

But keeping the tax code’s status quo—unfair, costly to comply with, detrimental to economic growth and American competitiveness—won’t make the debt problem go away. The CBO estimates that, without tax reform, Washington will collect $42.1 trillion over the next decade. Outlays will reach $51.4 trillion, meaning another $9.3 trillion added to the debt. The only way to mitigate the problem is to constrain federal spending." - Karl Rove WSJ 11/30

2. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/30/2017 3:09:26 PM)
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Speaking of hypocrites, maybe you can explain how exactly Obama added to the debt. What did he spend on that total $9.3 trillion and who initiated this spend.

You may be a CEO but that doesn't mean that you're honest or bright does it!

3. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/30/2017 3:35:19 PM)
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Ah, the personal attacks on character, you fit right in Rickie!

Those were not my words, they are attributed to Mr. Rove. Did you notice the quotation marks? Guess not....but anyway

A President, any President has little control over spending, only the House can raise and appropriate, 8th Grade Social Studies.

Did our debt increase by that amount under Obama. The answer is yes. Was he writing the checks and doing the shopping, not exactly.

For those of us who are able to think, it is more of a question of demographics.

75 million Americans were born between 1954 and 1964, and those of us that are left, are getting very expensive as we reach that golden age. A 60 year old uses 6x the amount of health care as a 30 year old. Government promises and laws enacted many years ago compel the Feds to spend lots of dollars.

Throw in the 53 million Americans who have appeared here in the past 20 years, and there you go!

And didn't President Clinton predict this in 1996?

Post Script: It is what it is. Nice post Ricky!!!

Message edited by user at 11/30/2017 3:36:57 PM

4. D Robb
     (11/30/2017 5:00:34 PM)
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No diminutives please. It lessens your credibility while turning off your audience. Weren't you the one that wanted to do away with the reply button to lessen the nastiness?

5. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/30/2017 3:48:01 PM)
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Yes it was, but alas they toil my name in vain.

Whatz a diminutive?

Isn't that like a miniature horse? When referenced to people, would that be like the munchkins?

Not nice to make fun of little people

6. D Robb
     (11/30/2017 4:24:17 PM)
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Thomas, you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Take a deep breath and decide whether you are the person upset by nasty attacks or a nasty attacker.

7. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/30/2017 4:32:05 PM)
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Apologies Tommy, I didn't see the quotes. However, that doesn't mean we should be pumping up millionaires and billionaires with tax cuts they don't need and use to ensure the rest of us take it in the shorts sooner rather than later.
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