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Do you think that the Trump Tax plan will help the middle class?

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1. Noel Meyer
     (12/2/2017 6:20:51 PM)
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Scott-

"Another Good reason to dump DACA "

Trump and haters don't need good reasons to dump DACA, just their normal bigotry and racism will do quite nicely

2. Scott Walker
     (12/4/2017 10:54:56 AM)
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Noel, with all respect you and D robb appear to not have a job. The time you all post is 24 hours a day. Every other minute. Wow.

It's like you all have your equipment ringing a dinger every time someone types your name in this forum, double dog wow, no triple double dog, wow.

3. D Robb
     (12/2/2017 6:34:54 PM)
     Message ID #294623

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I had a job Scott. I am 74. I decided that volunteering, traveling, and trying to educate people on CEOEXPRESS is what I want to do now. I am lucky to live when I did. Will you still be working when you are 74?

4. Scott Walker
     (12/4/2017 3:08:53 PM)
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Yes I'm older than you, still enjoy working

Message edited by user at 12/4/2017 3:11:59 PM

5. D Robb
     (12/4/2017 11:19:09 AM)
     Message ID #294629

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Good for you. I have plenty of things to do in retirement and prefer to be doing them. Hi

6. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/4/2017 11:01:27 AM)
     Message ID #294636

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"Educate?"

Or indoctrinate, because that is two different things.

7. D Robb
     (12/3/2017 7:39:53 AM)
     Message ID #294638

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It's all in the eye of the beholder. I can cite factual basis for my views. You attempt to obfuscate the effects of this flawed tax bill by pointing the few nuggets of reform amidst the huge give-away to the rich, and the busting of the deficit.

8. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/3/2017 7:37:05 AM)
     Message ID #294640

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your facts are filtered by those who think they understand tax policy, when in fact they are simply partisan writers without the experience or knowledge of our overly complex tax code.

It's way past time for a reset two previous Presidents failed to get to this point, even though they both stated it was needed. In particular Prez O said many times the corporate was holding back America in the global market.

Next up is immigration, another Bush/Obama failure

9. D Robb
     (12/2/2017 9:49:29 PM)
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You are entitled to your unsubstantiated opinion. Both the economy and corporations and the rich seem to be doing extremely well. Why do they need a deficit busting stimulus? The people who need help are the middle class and the poor, and this flawed tax bill will hurt both. It is ironic that trump is screwing his base and they are dumb enough to cheer him on as he does it.

10. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/3/2017 9:46:55 AM)
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Thank you. But "seem to be doing extremely well", and reality are far different. In the headlines are GOOGL, AMZN,FB, and other superstars.

The majority of the middle class gets paid by small business. It's all about jobs and income.

My opinion is we have had a lost economy for the past 10 years, not only due to Federal policies, but more importantly on the State level.

Fiscally, NJ/NY/CT are a total mess. RI.IL are not far behind.

The middle class has suffered, low income has suffered even more mainly to loss of population in many Northern cities that have been mismanaged for years.

Providence has a debt that equals $34k for every citizen, Charlotte has a surplus that equals $3k per citizen.

Education suffers the most, it's the easiest place to cut, see the case of CT. Wealthy suburbs provide great education, cities such as Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, not so much

Reforming the tax code is a good place to start. Just about every person in Congress has stated that.

Today we see the partisan divide in all it's glory. How we got here is irrelevant.

11. D Robb
     (12/3/2017 9:42:06 AM)
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Right, everyone is for reforming and simplifying the tax code, providing a small tax cut to the middle class, and working on spending and raising taxes in some areas to eliminate the deficit. This flawed bill doesn't do that. It blows a $trillion plus hole in the deficit, and is a big give-a-way to the rich.

12. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/3/2017 7:58:55 AM)
     Message ID #294657

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At a 1.9% growth I would have to agree. Going forward I tend to believe 3 to 4% is the norm, historically that is true.

A true Keynesian would opt for Government stimulus. That failed.

13. D Robb
     (12/3/2017 7:57:24 AM)
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Thomas, nobody is projecting that this tax bill is going to pay for itself. Trickle down has NEVER worked. Yes, cutting taxes results in increased revenues to the government, but NEVER enough to cover the deficits created. Repubs constantly talk about the effect of Reagan's and Kennedy's tax cuts on revenues and ignore that they both blew a hole in the deficit.

14. D Robb
     (12/2/2017 11:28:09 PM)
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What the US needs is a restructuring to provide the blue collar jobs that have been lost. How do we do that? We are not going to bring back manufacturing or coal mining so we need to look for ways to educate the workforce for the jobs that are going begging, and encourage them to move where the jobs are.

15. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/3/2017 8:10:03 AM)
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Seems your last paragraph begs the question. What and when are you referring to when you state the Keynesian approach has failed? What is your basis of belief and, where are your evidence that support your belief?

There's timely empirical fact based evidence that "Trickle down" doesn't work and, there is no reason to believe it will work this time. Trickle down is, IMO, based on faulty reasoning and flawed premises. There's no history / evidence of Tickle Down ever achieving it's publicly stated goals and objectives.

Bush Sr. was prescient when he called trickle down "voodoo economics".

16. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/3/2017 7:22:31 AM)
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2009 Stimulus and the last 50 years of Government deficit spending?

The last time the Government actually cut the Federal Budget, 1954, the economy took off like a spaceship,

John Maynard Keynes still has advocates today, despite the fact that he lived in a time when the government revenue was in the form of tariffs. Income tax on individuals, and then later Corporations was just getting started.

17. Michael O'Neill
     (12/3/2017 8:47:44 AM)
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The 2009 stimulus was 30% tax cuts.

18. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/3/2017 9:23:35 AM)
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Are you serious?

It was a one time $400 "rebate" of sorts on your payroll tax, you didn't get it unless you were on a payroll.

30% of what?

Lame retort. Extremely lame.

Actually, it's the funniest one I've ever read here.

19. Noel Meyer
     (12/3/2017 12:36:09 PM)
     Message ID #294631

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scott-

retired years ago. Mind did not stop working. Didn't follow the goose-stepping of Cheney and his McCarthy-style patriotism in two failed wars; didn't swallow the puss* grabber's nonsense that he could or would represent grass roots American.

you post no citations to support your opinions- you post no facts just spew hatred for those who challenge your delusions and Trump-like expectations.

once this Russian influence in elections is detailed, you will silently hide under a rock till your party wins majority again, wonder how long it will take to repair the damage of letting "Trump be Trump"?

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20. scott walker
     (12/3/2017 12:39:23 PM)
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Noel, no need to post citations, if you tracked what was posted you will find it is very truthful or will be happen in time because history seems to repeats.

21. Noel Meyer
     (12/3/2017 12:43:00 PM)
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just wondering scott -

Perhaps you could explain why Republicans pass such failures of legislation during the 'wee hours of the night/morning' and then take holidays and vacations for so much of the year to avoid dealing with the needs of the nation. They have jobs and apparently do their work when Americans are asleep and can't control their madness.

22. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/3/2017 4:12:54 PM)
     Message ID #294637

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Ocare was passed late at night

Most major Bills are done that way,

23. scott walker
     (12/3/2017 1:09:55 PM)
     Message ID #294644

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Noel, Canít explain why the Republicans and Democratic work that way. President Trump wants his original agenda that got him elected passed; however, there are the Rinosí that exist in the party like McConnell, McCain, Flake,..etc and the haters in the democratic party that force wee hour effort and sometime bad decisions to get anything passed, like obamacare, like bad DACA support to get Flake involved ., Itís sad that all Americans canít work to support our our constitution and future in a safe way, murders Kate Steinle and a jury in San Francisco finds him not guilty; Steinleís last words, after she was shot were, "Help Me Dad" should have never happened.

24. Scott Walker
     (12/3/2017 12:47:57 PM)
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Noel meyer
The news today supports the fact that MS13 bad guys are infused into DACA.

There may very well be good people in DACA, but out of 800000 that are in this country how many killers are hiding out. Don't need another Kate crying "daddy help me" or Circle K shooting.

President Trump needs to Build the Wall, asap, to put the brakes on this type of destruction and sneaknes within America.

25. Noel Meyer
     (12/3/2017 5:57:16 PM)
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Scott-

"The news today supports the fact that MS13 bad guys are infused into DACA."

How do you know this?

You offer no citation for such an opinion.

"Don't need another Kate crying "daddy help me" or Circle K shooting."

St. Louis has over 190 shootings this year with a month to go. Don't think MS 13 bad guys had any part in those shootings, just American borne citizens.

26. Douglas Robb CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/3/2017 7:04:52 PM)
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Scott, repeating your unsubstantiated lies does not make them truths. It only reveals that your beliefs are driven by bigotry rather than FACTS.

27. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/4/2017 5:34:17 AM)
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Fake News!!!!!

You ever going to provide any sources for your constant barrage of Fake News?

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