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1. D Robb
     (12/6/2017 4:06:53 AM)
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People deal with issues that they can understand and ignore those that are beyond their comprehension. I was always amazed attending town meetings in the little NE town I was raised in. A warrant for several million dollars for an expansion of the sewage treatment system would come up and there would be no comment or questions. A warrant to extend the sidewalk 150 feet on the east side of some street would generate a half hour of questions and comments.
We have seen the same phenomenon at work in Congress in the tax reform bill. There has been a lot of comment on some of the “reforms” contained in the bill, but an attempt to ignore the reality that the economy doesn’t need tax cuts at this point, but increased revenues. Similarly, support for the bill is generated more by people’s beliefs about what government should and shouldn’t do, rather than an understanding on the effects of this bill.

2. Noel Meyer
     (12/6/2017 7:05:19 AM)
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Trump so paranoid about his position he is creating "private spy ring" to serve Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2WxaxOw5oM

When you don't trust or respect the standard intelligence agencies nor the civil service employees of professionals you get this Nixon-style of private "loyalists" outside of the standard government.

3. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/6/2017 5:14:46 AM)
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Larry O'Donnell?

You have hit bottom Meyer

4. Noel Meyer
     (12/6/2017 7:43:08 AM)
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in YOUR OPINION

In a debate, if you disagree with a point, you are permitted to present your counterpoint.

So present some evangelical Christian extremist that supports your views so your sources can be evaluated.

Bannon and Trump just lobb their delusions (like Obama wire-tapped Trump tower or 3 million illegals voted for Clinton) and never, NEVER try to even present proof of such statements.

You present your opinions in just such an unsupported manner.

5. B Hoskins CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/6/2017 7:11:48 AM)
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Noel...

Question: Are all evangelical Christians extremists? Just curious?

It's beginning to look like the following groups may be extremists:

Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives, Liberals, Gay, Straight, Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Southerners, Northerners (South/North in the USA), Rich, Poor, Anglo, Non-Anglo, Old (older than millennials), Young.

I'm sure I'm missing some. Would you please help me complete the list? I'm just trying to make sure I understand how divided we all are becoming.

6. D Robb
     (12/6/2017 7:09:06 AM)
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2/3's of Americans disapprove of trump and his tax plan. Which are the "Regular People", the majority or the minority. Only Thomas can tell you since he created the categories.

7. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/6/2017 6:52:32 AM)
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And I don't even go to Church

8. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/6/2017 11:14:50 AM)
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NYT claimed Trump Tower was wiretapped, Oh great one!

I read that on Jan 19th. Trump read it, so did Bannon.

You mean you didn't?

I bet Comey read it too. But he already knew.

I don't think Clapper knew, because frankly I don't believe the man knows what day it is...

9. D Robb
     (12/6/2017 9:38:39 AM)
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Following the example of Rumsfeld and Cheney. They didn't get the answers they wanted on Saddam and WMD so they created their own intelligence agency that would tell them what they wanted to hear.

10. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 4:22:10 AM)
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As a person who has zero first hand experience, none, and has been out of the workforce all throughout the Obama regime, plus has no experience in the private sector...


That is an incredibly uninformed statement.

However! It does follow the left wing extremist rhetoric promoted by a party fighting to stay relevant.

And, it is the wrong strategy. Extremists vote on single issues, abortion, climate control, immigration, etc Regular folk vote with their pocketbook...and the Democrats have been very bad for them

11. D Robb
     (12/6/2017 11:11:03 AM)
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Thomas, who are your self-described "Regular Folk"? They certainly are not the moore voters. trump attracted the forgotten voters with lies. He said he was going to bring back coal and manufacturing jobs and they believed him. He said he was going to take care of them, and now is in the process of taking away their health care, and will go after every other benefit he can.

12. D Robb
     (12/6/2017 9:51:21 AM)
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Just for your edification, Thomas. After retiring from the Army I worked for two engineering consulting firms, and the NYS Dept of Transportation. I worked as a newspaper reporter, and I worked for an insurance adjusting firm as a consultant for states, counties and cities that suffered disasters. I helped them assess the damage and apply to FEMA for grants. In truth, I believe met more average, “Regular People” than you have, and have a better appreciation of their needs and desires.
When I started coordinating with FEMA for states, counties and cities right after Katrina, FEMA was far better than it is today, and it was bad then. It is too bad, because the Stafford Act was designed to bring government entities and non-profits (schools, museums, etc.) back to their pre-disaster condition. The idea is wonderful, but the attitude of Congress is they don’t want to appropriate the necessary money. They’d rather spend it on unneeded gee-wiz weapons.

13. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/6/2017 9:56:50 AM)
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Why so many jobs?

14. D Robb
     (12/6/2017 11:12:07 AM)
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I was retired from the Army with a pension, Thomas. I didn't and don't have to work, and I was looking for something that would make me want to get up in the morning. I didn't mention that I designed and managed a renovation project for Catholic charities using mostly volunteers.
I met a lot of regular people there.
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