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1. M Bathurst
     (12/6/2017 7:42:23 PM)
     Message ID #294838

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I would bet not fake news - just inconvenient truth for those on the Left.

History will not look kindly on Mr. Mueller and his clown car troops.

2. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/6/2017 11:06:45 PM)
     Message ID #294839

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And the same can, and will, be said about The Velveeta Raccoon and HIS Ménagerie à Trois plus. Just give it time ... Just give it time.

3. M Bathurst
     (12/6/2017 8:16:37 PM)
     Message ID #294844

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Mr. Bixby, you may be correct. However, I suspect you will not be. Your hatred for Pres. Trump is noted. However, it is the vocal minority that is doing most of the yelling.

Regulations are being deleted - correctly. Foreign issues are being dealt with; not always the most elegantly. However, today's decision regarding the capital of Israel is long overdue. The federal courts are getting competent judges. The ACA is slowing being corrected. The markets are soaring. And, if the tax reform comes to be; in particular the corporate provisions - Katy bare the door for the economy.

You may find him distasteful; but, his instincts are solid in most cases. No one is perfect (except for God Robb). Those instincts, contrary to the likes of Robb, Meyer, T and Patricia; are positive for the person known as John Q Public.

And, I think the public is beginning to see the stink that Mr. Mueller and his clan have brought to the FBI and DOJ. AG Sessions needs to start doing his job; or, resign (if the kitchen it too hot for him - get the ef out). I was of the opinion that I thought he would be good at his job. He is proving me wrong on a daily basis.

History will not be kind to Mr. Big Ears and his tribe. However, I think you are wrong in regards to Pres. Trump. History will be tough on him; but, overall, he will come out as a breath of fresh air after 50+ years of Democrats, Socialism, Communism and Progressivism tainting the country.

4. Noel Meyer
     (12/7/2017 2:41:24 AM)
     Message ID #294848

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"You may find him distasteful; but, his instincts are solid in most cases. No one is perfect (except for God Robb). Those instincts, contrary to the likes of Robb, Meyer, T and Patricia; are positive for the person known as John Q Public."


1. So allocating money for Trump's wall is positive for john Q Public but not getting hurricane aid to Puerto Rico? Good instincts or self gratification to keep HIS Campaign promises?

2. Recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in defiance of long standing American and international policy is positive for john Q Public when such might inflame a war in the Middle East? Good instincts or self gratification to keep HIS Campaign promises?

3. Failing to denounce neo-nazis, white supremacists, Putin's Russia while throwing verbal grenades without proof that 3 million illegals voted for Hillary is good for John Q Public when his TWITTER-Tantrums
divide the nation and AMERICAN values are destroyed? Good instincts or the deranged delusions of a paranoid idiot?

4. Tax cuts for the rich when the nation faces devastating wild fires and hurricanes and heroine epidemics and infrastructure deterioration and needs money to address these issues. Good instincts or the deranged delusions of a paranoid idiot?

Bathurst, your views are the same as the J Paul Getty's and other robber barons of the late 19th century when this country was run not be "we the people" but the special privileged class.

5. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 2:40:53 AM)
     Message ID #294857

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Revealing that a lead FBI investigator was sent to the basement by Mueller for anti-Trump texts didn't phase me, at all. People have opinions.

What shocked me is the DOJ now says it will hand over all the texts for this Government Employee, between him and his girlfriend who is an attorney at DOJ, all 10,000 of them. "over a few months"

WTF!

10,000!!

In the private sector, you get fired for misuse of Company Phones, and more importantly time.

DC is a swamp. overpaid, underworked mindbots! If the dude has that much time on his hands, why do we need so many people in the building?

6. D James
     (12/6/2017 11:44:58 PM)
     Message ID #294861

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That "government employee" is the #2 FBI counterintelligence executive manager (Deputy Assistant Director - CI) and a Senior Executive Service person which is equivalent to a two star flag officer. He has a whole slew of issues on the table to include lack of candor (a firing offense), adultery, moral turpitude, not to mention the probability he is one of the leakers AND may have dummied up probable cause to obtain a FISA under false pretenses. He, and Andrew McCabe (the FBI #2) are lashed up at the cajones with a chain of intrigue and corrupt and malicious behavior. It fit the then Lynch-DoJ and Comey-FBI model under High Domo Barack very well, don't you think?

7. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/8/2017 7:57:45 AM)
     Message ID #294850

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Hi M,

And a very fine day to you and yours too. Now on to my response ...

We obviously differ about the status of my suspicions about Old Cheesface etc but as you I believe noted, time will tell the tale.

While I don't necessarily disagree w/ your assessment of the current status of federalism, I do disagree about the methodology being implemented. Yes, I do "find him distasteful" but I disagree about the soundness of his instincts. IMO they're (his instincts) unstable at the best of times in most cases, except for as they reflect upon his own personal interests.

We most certainly disagree where Mueller is concerned. While I too wish it weren't necessary to have him doing his job, I also find it (him doing his job) a most necessary evil. Would that it weren't necessary. WRT Sessions, I agree. He DOES need to "Take a Hike!"

Not quite sure who you are referring to when you talk about "Mr. Big Ears and his tribe". Is that your colloquialism for Old Cheesface???

True enough about history and it's ultimate judgment of DJT but that judgement, harsh or otherwise, is, and will be, of his own doing. While I've never failed to acknowledge that many of the things DJT was saying needed to be done did in fact need to be done, I have never once acknowledged him as the one who needed to do them.

The reasons for my dislike of Old Cheesface are far too numerous and far too onerous to list but leave it to say: No matter what outcome survives his Presidency, I will never, repeat never, consider him "qualified" to have held the office save for the fact he was duly elected (the legitimacy of said election to be determined by other than me but in and by an unbiased and bi-partisan manner).

8. M Bathurst
     (12/7/2017 7:56:36 AM)
     Message ID #294870

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What exactly is Mr. Mueller's job? We were told to investigate "collusion" between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

First, special prosecutors are a major waste of time and money. I have never been a fan. You cannot give a group of folks a bunch of money and power; tell them go prove something. Collusion is not a crime; so we have a SP investigating a non-crime. He loaded his team with very biased individuals. And, they have found nothing regarding collusion and the campaign that involved the Trump organization. But, they have found some interesting interactions between the Russians and Democrats. And, the crimes they have charged are (i) a process crime that is absolutely silly - Flynn and (ii) economic activity prior to the accused being involved with the Trump organization Watch out Mr. Bixby, I am sure Mr. Mueller could squeeze a ham sandwich out of you if he wanted. Since we have a SP, let name another one - investigate Mr. Mueller, Ms. Clinton and the closing days of the Big Ears Administration (know who I am referring to now).

You can disagree with my opinions; that is your right. However, history will be much kinder to Pres. Trump than you will like.

"I have never once acknowledged him as the one who needed to do them." Mr. Bixby, if not him - who - anyone on the Left -BS / anyone on the Right - not likely - they are all suffering from Stockholm Syndrome from the bullying of the Left and the MSM.

Your consideration of his qualifications are not relevant; he met the qualifications set out by the Constitution; then he was able to collect sufficient number of Electoral votes to win. So, there are plenty of folks that disagree with you.

But, to play the qualifications game for awhile - other than the Constitutional ones - what qualifications did Big Ears have? I would set forth that of the two, Mr. Trump brought more to the table than Big Ears (an effing communist as far as I am concerned). And, on a tangent, I find it interesting that the Left (like the Right) are not real fans of Nazis - the Left loves communists - even the 100 million dead ones over the past 100 years.

Sorry, you won't like this; but, there is little difference between your views and Mr. Robb's. BFF.

9. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 6:30:39 AM)
     Message ID #294882

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Been tied up w/ tech support almost the entire day. It's now almost midnight, I'm tired and going to call it a day.

Sorry but this one will have to wait until the next time it comes up in a discussion.

10. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/8/2017 12:09:26 PM)
     Message ID #294879

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And seriously what had/did his two predecessors accomplished?

More debt. War?

Hope and Change, has morphed into fix and do it now!i Perhaps the Presidents' methods can be brought into question but who really cares?

It's all about results. Without this dead end investigation hanging on his every word things would be moving a lot quicker. The MSM has already tried and convicted him, for what?

11. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 7:40:02 PM)
     Message ID #294883

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Sorry Thomas. Would normally reply but I ask you to read my reply to M (post #294882).

Will reply to you more correctly next go around.

12. D James
     (12/7/2017 3:54:20 PM)
     Message ID #294840

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The most apparent and trubling aspect, to me at any rate, of this most politically inspired impeachment investigation are the roles of two former FBI Directors, one as a prosecutor (should be recast as "Special Persecutor") and the other (his successor) as a leaker and quisling; a former FBI Chief of Staff named Andrew Weissmann who openly supports a mutineer former Acting AG named Sally Yates, the current FBI Deputy Director and proven leaker Andrew McCabe, and current FBI Deputy Assistant Director for Counterintelligence, cocksman, adulterer and anti-Trumper Peter Strzok.

The FBI and DOJ are at this point beneath any bar of confidence or respectability. It pains me to see those dedicated Special Agents who toil in that organization doing the real work away from politics smeared and tainted by the corrupt and scurrilous behavior of High Bureau Officials and former Directors who damaged the Bureaus's brand in a wholesale manner. John Edgar Hoover has to be spinning in his grave.

13. Scott Walker
     (12/7/2017 9:53:29 AM)
     Message ID #294841

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D James , very good message, best I've seem!

14. M Bathurst
     (12/8/2017 4:06:49 PM)
     Message ID #294845

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These folks make Hoover look like a choir boy.

15. D James
     (12/8/2017 12:53:22 AM)
     Message ID #294889

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Hoover was a patriot and the father of modern law enforcement. The allegations against him regarding some "unusual " behaviors were ginned up by a disgruntled leftist with an ax to grind.

16. M Bathurst
     (12/8/2017 12:50:17 AM)
     Message ID #294909

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This is not meant as a challenge; but, rather to the perceptions regarding Mr. Hoover's time as the head of the FBI. The general public has the perception that Mr. Hoover abused his power (the unusual behaviors are of no relevance to me).

When it comes to Mr. Mueller, Mr. Comey, Ms. Lynch, Mr. Holder, Mr. McCabe and many others currently or recently departed official from the FBI and DOJ, there is no perception regarding the abuse of power and corruption - it is quite evident. However, nothing will come of it because of politics - the Right fears mythological boogeymen.

This is the core of my comment. The Left actively supports this level of corruption and bad acts to keep power.

17. D James
     (12/7/2017 11:39:16 AM)
     Message ID #294948

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Understand and concur.
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