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Do you think it's more effective to be for or against something or someone?

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1. D Robb
     (1/1/2018 9:41:57 PM)
     Message ID #295957

This message is in response to Richard Frontera ( message id #295953 )  Back To All Messages

The reality is people will lose their insurance because removing young healthy people from the pool will raise the cost (premiums) for everyone else which will make it unaffordable for some. Medicare for all is the only long term solution.

2. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 7:53:05 AM)
     Message ID #295958

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The fact that the program cannot survive without the funds does not justify the government dictating that unwilling citizens must pay them... any more than a thieves desire for money justifies pulling a gun on someone who has it. You are conceptually adrift and morally bankrupt.

3. D Robb
     (1/1/2018 10:06:45 PM)
     Message ID #295959

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Robert, you need to read more and take more time with your posts. I was explaining why taking away the mandate will result in people who want insurance losing it.

4. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 11:00:58 AM)
     Message ID #295960

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You cannot lose what you cannot afford to buy in the first place.

5. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 8:21:27 AM)
     Message ID #295961

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why not?

6. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/1/2018 10:11:42 PM)
     Message ID #295962

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Stupid, but funny (though I realize you meant it in all seriousness.).

7. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 12:59:38 PM)
     Message ID #295963

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You're stupid and pathetic so, answer the question

8. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 11:29:42 AM)
     Message ID #295964

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I'm sorry Rick... you don't present enough substance to function as a convenient segue anymore.

9. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 11:25:42 AM)
     Message ID #295965

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That coming from a dipsh#t like you? Don't make me laugh.

10. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/1/2018 10:31:26 PM)
     Message ID #295969

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There is perhaps only a handful of Economists who have studied healthcare as a single issue, one is J.Gruber, MIT. He was engaged by Romney to put together Romneycare which drove the uninsured rate in MA from 13% down to 3-4%.

His recent study claims that the tax penalty effect on ACHA was nil. In other words you can force someone who doesn't need a product to buy it. Why should I buy car insurance if I don't own a car?

Gruber claims the penalty would have had to be 1:1 before adverse selection fades away. So enticing young healthy bodies into the individual markets, doesn't work.

A much better approach would be the opposite: incentivize; allow non-employer groups to form, allow insurers to cross state lines, and allow defined benefit plans.

Why shouldn't a 28 year old single male be allowed to buy a healthcare policy from AAA, underwritten by a Company in Iowa, that doesn't include maternity or mental health?

Obamacare killed all those approaches and instead used the stick, rather than a carrot.

Epic fail. The individual mandate is still intact for another 12 months, those lunk heads in DC now have 1 year to fix it.

Let's see who stands up and leads the way. My guess is they do nothing except campaign for their own jobs.

11. Noel Meyer
     (1/2/2018 1:10:39 PM)
     Message ID #295970

This message is in response to Thomas C ( message id #295969 )  Back To All Messages

Do you think it's more effective to be for or against something or someone?

Nice example of being against something,

BTW- "those lunk heads in DC now have 1 year to fix it. " Those lunk heads have had over 8 years to fix it but chose like you to be AGAINST universal healthcare and CAMPAIGN against it rather than fix it.

"My guess is they do nothing except campaign for their own jobs." Safe guess as HISTORY shows Republicans have done exactly that especially since the election of 2016 and Congressional action by Republicans in all of 2017

12. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 11:43:08 AM)
     Message ID #295981

This message is in response to Noel Meyer ( message id #295970 )  Back To All Messages

Meyer, "universal healthcare" is not a reality in this country, now or for the foreseeable future.

"Lunk heads" are both GOP and Democrats, no distinction there

What is your healthcare solution? And please stay within the dynamics and parameters of the US healthcare marketplace...


change the rules M.

13. M Bathurst
     (1/2/2018 11:27:25 AM)
     Message ID #295983

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Quit referring to Mr. Meyer as M. If you fail to do so, I am going to sentence you to a month on a deserted island with Ms. Clinton, Mr. Robb and Mr. T - an no internet connection.

M

14. D Robb
     (1/1/2018 10:50:13 PM)
     Message ID #295984

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Everybody knows you are Bs.

15. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 4:13:04 PM)
     Message ID #295989

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Cruel and unusual, he doesn't deserve the pronoun Mr.

16. D Robb
     (1/2/2018 12:55:09 PM)
     Message ID #295977

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Thomas, when we have multiple successful examples of single payer healthcare systems to choose from - systems that provide better care than the US at one half to one third the cost per patient, per year - why do you persist in trying to create the wheel? Why wouldn't we want to choose the best from the multitude of good examples we have to choose from?

17. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 11:46:19 AM)
     Message ID #295978

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In this country where 165 million on Employer Sponsored Insurance plans, both in the private and public sectors?

Better and less costly are red herrings

18. D Robb
     (1/1/2018 10:57:47 PM)
     Message ID #295980

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Thomas, you can remain in denial, and dissemble and distract, but you cannot change FACTs.

19. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/1/2018 11:07:46 PM)
     Message ID #295990

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What do you suggest the Gov't do with 165 million folks on ESI?

Message edited by user at 1/2/2018 3:13:48 AM

20. D Robb
     (1/1/2018 11:12:11 PM)
     Message ID #295993

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Why can't they integrated in? I don't see a problem.

21. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/1/2018 11:36:55 PM)
     Message ID #296019

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Walk me through that scenario........
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