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Do you think it's more effective to be for or against something or someone?

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1. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 7:53:05 AM)
     Message ID #295969

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There is perhaps only a handful of Economists who have studied healthcare as a single issue, one is J.Gruber, MIT. He was engaged by Romney to put together Romneycare which drove the uninsured rate in MA from 13% down to 3-4%.

His recent study claims that the tax penalty effect on ACHA was nil. In other words you can force someone who doesn't need a product to buy it. Why should I buy car insurance if I don't own a car?

Gruber claims the penalty would have had to be 1:1 before adverse selection fades away. So enticing young healthy bodies into the individual markets, doesn't work.

A much better approach would be the opposite: incentivize; allow non-employer groups to form, allow insurers to cross state lines, and allow defined benefit plans.

Why shouldn't a 28 year old single male be allowed to buy a healthcare policy from AAA, underwritten by a Company in Iowa, that doesn't include maternity or mental health?

Obamacare killed all those approaches and instead used the stick, rather than a carrot.

Epic fail. The individual mandate is still intact for another 12 months, those lunk heads in DC now have 1 year to fix it.

Let's see who stands up and leads the way. My guess is they do nothing except campaign for their own jobs.

2. Noel Meyer
     (1/2/2018 11:00:58 AM)
     Message ID #295970

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Do you think it's more effective to be for or against something or someone?

Nice example of being against something,

BTW- "those lunk heads in DC now have 1 year to fix it. " Those lunk heads have had over 8 years to fix it but chose like you to be AGAINST universal healthcare and CAMPAIGN against it rather than fix it.

"My guess is they do nothing except campaign for their own jobs." Safe guess as HISTORY shows Republicans have done exactly that especially since the election of 2016 and Congressional action by Republicans in all of 2017

3. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 8:21:27 AM)
     Message ID #295981

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Meyer, "universal healthcare" is not a reality in this country, now or for the foreseeable future.

"Lunk heads" are both GOP and Democrats, no distinction there

What is your healthcare solution? And please stay within the dynamics and parameters of the US healthcare marketplace...


change the rules M.

4. M Bathurst
     (1/2/2018 12:59:38 PM)
     Message ID #295983

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Quit referring to Mr. Meyer as M. If you fail to do so, I am going to sentence you to a month on a deserted island with Ms. Clinton, Mr. Robb and Mr. T - an no internet connection.

M

5. D Robb
     (1/2/2018 11:29:42 AM)
     Message ID #295984

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Everybody knows you are Bs.

6. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 11:25:42 AM)
     Message ID #295989

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Cruel and unusual, he doesn't deserve the pronoun Mr.

7. D Robb
     (1/2/2018 1:10:39 PM)
     Message ID #295977

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Thomas, when we have multiple successful examples of single payer healthcare systems to choose from - systems that provide better care than the US at one half to one third the cost per patient, per year - why do you persist in trying to create the wheel? Why wouldn't we want to choose the best from the multitude of good examples we have to choose from?

8. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 11:43:08 AM)
     Message ID #295978

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In this country where 165 million on Employer Sponsored Insurance plans, both in the private and public sectors?

Better and less costly are red herrings

9. D Robb
     (1/2/2018 11:27:25 AM)
     Message ID #295980

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Thomas, you can remain in denial, and dissemble and distract, but you cannot change FACTs.

10. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 4:13:04 PM)
     Message ID #295990

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What do you suggest the Gov't do with 165 million folks on ESI?

11. D Robb
     (1/2/2018 12:55:09 PM)
     Message ID #295993

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Why can't they integrated in? I don't see a problem.

12. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 11:46:19 AM)
     Message ID #296019

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Walk me through that scenario........
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