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1. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/2/2018 7:29:32 PM)
     Message ID #296037

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I voted Write-In since neither of the two (DJT or HRC) were worthy of being voted on in the first place. They were BOTH Losers! (for themselves, for "We, The People" and for the country as a whole).


No offense Robert, but ...

It was the only decent choice left to those of us who were still Independent enough to realize the 2016 Election was a Crisis-in-the-Making.

2. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 1:13:30 AM)
     Message ID #296041

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Has Mr. Write-in made the difference you were looking for? So far, I am satisfied with the changes my choice has made.

3. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 9:42:57 AM)
     Message ID #296053

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If your "choice" was DJT I'm surprised you haven't yet wet your pants because of his infantile, undisciplined, psycho, taunting behavior.

To paraphrase (although it's close): Trump says "his 'Nuclear Button' is 'bigger' and more powerful than Kim Jong Un's"!!!!!!!!!


Are you kidding me?????????

Taunting is one thing but to do it w/ nuke weapons??????? And to do it w/ someone who is as paranoid, if not even moreso, than Trump himself???? As far as I'm concerned it's behavior like that that is just proving he's (Trump's) ready for a rubber room.

And yet again Robert ... I'm holding my fire on all the adjectives I could unleash about Trump WRT the ones I and many others consider him qualified to be described w/ and/or by.

---------------

And to answer your question ...

My Write-In didn't win but at least w/ respect to my vote I can sleep easy at night. On the other hand, w/ Trump "in command" I don't. And I wouldn't sleep peacefully at night if HRC had won either so that rounds out the trifecta.

4. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 2:37:01 PM)
     Message ID #296054

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That would all be great, Tams... if only this was all about Donald Trump.

You have bitten into the bait of the Donald Trump persona. Now you are just one more fish dangling from a hook.

Pay attention to what is happening - not to the colorful illusions that are being painted around it. You are a hell of a lot smarter than Robb. It is sad to watch you dance to his tune.

Message edited by user at 1/3/2018 2:39:10 PM

5. D Robb
     (1/3/2018 11:45:17 AM)
     Message ID #296055

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Despite the booming economy, there is widespread dissatisfaction with the GOP. Why? The dim donald. Republicans have become as alarmed and embarrassed by the bone spur guy as the Dems.

6. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 10:23:34 AM)
     Message ID #296059

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And to think they are only the second worst Party!

7. Douglas Robb CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 3:28:24 PM)
     Message ID #296060

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True. More and more voters are becoming independents, and Independents really dislike trump.

Message edited by user at 1/3/2018 3:30:40 PM

8. D Robb
     (1/3/2018 2:47:13 PM)
     Message ID #296057

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You are probably right about Tams being smarter than I am. However, you are the worst judge possible of anyone's knowledge since you have admitted you are clueless and base your support totally on trust. Who can trust someone who lies 80% of the time?

Message edited by user at 1/3/2018 2:49:06 PM

9. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 1:31:21 PM)
     Message ID #296062

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Robert,

Sadly you should be ashamed of yourself - yourself buying into DJT's incessant blatherings about pretty much anything and everything as you are.

And "No", I'm not in the least bit sorry I am on the side of the fence I am. DJT will end up getting this country into a nuclear war if he's not stopped because pretty soon he'll misjudge someone and shoot off his mouth and someone else (maybe rocket man himself) will just say "that's it!, here goes!", and so I hope he is (stopped) sooner as opposed to later.

His mouth overloads his nether region daily and sometimes hourly and the sooner he's replaced the better ALL of us are gonna be.

And JFTR, Pence used to be someone who I thought pretty highly of but after watching his behavior over the last year (sucking up as he has), I have lost faith in him as well.

And FTR Robert, I AM paying attention (to what DJT does and says, not what the MSM says). Are you??????

Thank you for those few kind words and I dance to no one's tune, save my own. Thank you very much.

10. M Bathurst
     (1/3/2018 1:30:27 PM)
     Message ID #296063

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After bastardizing the English language, the Left loves to hang on the words of their handlers - look at how they swooned over Big Ears great speeches (or rather readings - speaking "free-hand" he was in the class of Pres. Bush). But, they ignored what this little bastard was doing behind their backs (ACA and its lies, Fast & Furious, Benghazi, collusion with the Russians during the election; or non-election of Ms. Orange Jumpsuit). It is now the same with Pres. Trump; focus on his words; but, not on what is happening behind the scenes - improved economic activity as a result of "deleting" bad regulations, the Supreme Court, getting the federal agencies to do what they were created to do. I love the folks here that think Pres. Trump is Putin BFF. Simply repeating what their handlers tell them to say. I would gather that two examples would give them pause - first, military assistance to Ukraine and second, improve energy production in the US and the ability to export said energy. It is hard for any sane person to argue either of these events are making Putin happy.

Pres. Trump may not be the most "graceful" person; but, he has been effective. Many want to give Big Ears the credit for the economy; what a joke. During 2016, the economy was sputtering at best; and, with the strong expectation that Ms. Orange Jumpsuit was going to win; there was no positive energy in the economy. We were told how the market was going to crash, blah, blah, blah if Mr. Trump became Pres. Trump. Sitting near 25,000 is hardly a crash. Oh, it will come down as the market deals with the unwinding of Big Ears' QE program with rising interest rates. There is energy in the economy because the corporate/business world believes the weight of Big Ears' "let's kill the economy" is gone.

I also find it interesting that Mr. Bixby stated in an earlier post that Pres. Trump is doing many of the things he thinks should be done; but, that he is the wrong person to do it. WTF. If Big Ears had done some of these things I would have been congratulating him for doing the right thing. He goes on to say, Pres. Trump is simply unqualified to be President. And, Big Ears was? Look at the backgrounds of both gentlemen. Pres. Trump was not my first choice. However, he clearly was the only person could have beat Ms. Orange Jumpsuit and do what is being done. So, if he is here for 4 years or 8 years; I don't care. He will make some mistakes; but, he will be the reason many more serious mistakes were not made by the Progressives.

PS: You are being very nice to Mr. Bixby. I think he likes dancing in Robb's World.

11. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 1:11:32 PM)
     Message ID #296065

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"I also find it interesting that Mr. Bixby stated in an earlier post that Pres. Trump is doing many of the things he thinks should be done; but, that he is the wrong person to do it. WTF. If Big Ears had done some of these things I would have been congratulating him for doing the right thing. He goes on to say, Pres. Trump is simply unqualified to be President. And, Big Ears was? Look at the backgrounds of both gentlemen. Pres. Trump was not my first choice. However, he clearly was the only person could have beat Ms. Orange Jumpsuit and do what is being done. So, if he is here for 4 years or 8 years; I don't care. He will make some mistakes; but, he will be the reason many more serious mistakes were not made by the Progressives.

PS: You are being very nice to Mr. Bixby. I think he likes dancing in Robb's World.
"


M,

Point #1: I can't count the number of times (too many to count) I've said I didn't support BHO either and if you've read my previous posts in previous topics as closely as you claim to have read my previous posts on this topic, then you already know the truth of what I say - so you're pushing close to getting a real earful by claiming or inferring I support BHO.

Point #2: The same can and has been said by me about "dancing TO anyone's song or IN anyone's world" and again, if you've read my posts as closely as you claim, you know this to be true as well.

Further than what I've said here I won't go because your claims are unsubstantiated and unworthy of more response.

12. M Bathurst
     (1/3/2018 12:31:34 PM)
     Message ID #296066

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13. Domenick Aulozzi CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 11:28:58 AM)
     Message ID #296058

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Tams,

I understand the urge to write in a candidate because you don't like the options, but I have always felt that when you do that, you are merely forcing everyone else to make your decision for you.

Like it or not we have a two-party system in this country. By voting for a write-in candidate you are knowingly not making a bit of difference at all. That is fine in itself, but it does not absolve you from any responsibility for what the outcome brings about. You are just as responsible for Trump getting elected as any of us that voted for him are.

The choice was Trump or Hillary. It does not matter whether you liked the choice or not, one of them was going to become president and you merely punted your choice. I would encourage you to think about that when you are tempted to deride others for making a choice.

14. Noel Meyer
     (1/3/2018 11:01:47 AM)
     Message ID #296061

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"Like it or not we have a two-party system in this country"

With Libertarians, Independents there appear to be a host of candidates, alas poorly funded and without the necessary resources, but more than just the choice of the lesser of two evils.

Trump is not a Republican as he and Bannon appear to be destroying the Republican Brand with every action they take.

15. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 1:50:00 PM)
     Message ID #296064

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Domenick,

Much truth in what you have said but there is also much to be said (and truth of a different sort as well) for taking a stand even when you know in advance that you are and will remain in a minority.

That is essentially what I did (taking a stand) and I am happy, calm and at ease w/ the choice I made, even though I may have contributed some to DJT's election in some manner. I accept that as my responsibility and will live with it in peace. I'd much rather take my stand on values I can sleep peacefully w/ afterwards than align myself w/ an action I cannot live w/ after the fact.

Yeah, that may be an "old fashioned" virtue but it's one I've had since I was born and so I think I'll keep it.

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And a couple more things Domenick ...

1) I didn't have an "urge to write-in a candidate". I thought long and hard about what I would do and that thought process began long before election day (about just the facts to which you have referred).

2) Yes, we have a two-party system in this country -- for now, but if I have anything to say about it that'll change to either:
  • A multi-party system; or
  • A two-party system w/ a BINDING "None of the Above" Option (on every ballot; for every office; during every election) where everything goes back to ground zero and restarts w/ TOTALLY NEW candidates when/if "None" wins.


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16. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 12:12:31 PM)
     Message ID #296067

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Dear Tams,

I live in Massachusetts, my vote doesn't count.

If I vote with the masses of group thinkers, I'm wasting fossil fuels getting there, if I vote contra group think, I will lose anyway. One off year election had 18 candidates for positions I have no idea what they are. 14 were unopposed, all Dems. What's a conservative to do?

A few years back I bumped into Kasich on the street in Columbus, I said "Hey Gov, how ya doing?"

He said you're from Boston, right? How'd you know who I am?

I told him there are actually 18 Republicans in MA, if you count my dog!

I am proud to say I have never voted for a Kennedy, nor Barney Frank.

17. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 1:52:18 PM)
     Message ID #296069

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Naw, you'd have to live in a state that gerrymanders or suppresses the vote for your vote not to count or be counted. Your vote counts but it only counts as one vote, your neighbor's votes count too. You seem to have a problem with that.

18. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/3/2018 12:20:18 PM)
     Message ID #296071

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Hi Thomas,

Yeah, helluva situation ain't it?????

While I'm no died in the wool Republican, I am a right-leaning Independent which does no good where I live here in Texas.

Register as an Independent in Texas and you'll have nothing, zip, zero, nada, nyet to vote on in the primaries so I keep my Republican registration and just do the best I can.

Please note the colloquial spellings below if you please ...

Not all Repugnicans have the best ideas and neither do all the Donkeycrats so that's why I'm an Independent (AKA RINO).

Oh well. Carry on!!!!
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