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If you could turn back the clock, which one of these tech companies would you invest in?

More than one of the above (which ones?)
A different company

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1. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (10/15/2017 5:52:59 PM)
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With 20/20 hindsight we can dream of what an investment could bring to us in terms of riches. Some of us have had success in investments, some of us have not always had the best luck.

Some tech stocks have risen dramatically in the last two decades to values far exceeding the terra firma companies that were the bedrock on the stock market.

Then there are the confusing markets. Who knew "Bitcoin", a concept with no known/central owner and a shady underbelly, would have a market cap of $100 Billion, while most people don't even understand what bitcoin is.

Some of you may have made some lucky or wise business decisions in the last few decades on what tech companies to invest in, but others may think "if only I had......"

So, give you are in the "if only...." club...what companies would you have invested in if you could go back 20 years and why?

  • Google? Amazon? Facebook? Another tech company?
  • Do you not invest in the market at all?
  • Do you not invest in tech companies?
  • What is your idea of a successful investment strategy?

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2. Noel Meyer
     (10/15/2017 6:52:38 PM)
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If you could turn back the clock,

Like Monday night quarter-backing of Sunday's games, perhaps a better question might be, "looking back to the winners, what did you learn in selecting winning investments?"

Why didn't you invest in Apple - Google - That private space ship company now looking to send rockets to Mars?

What did you learn from these crazy companies' success so you can pick the next winning investment, next start-up company?

Should you invest in water companies?

Should you invest in gold? The next precious of the rare earth elements?

If someone says they have anti-gravity would you invest in that or wait till it was all proven and investors no longer needed?

There are money makers -- there are necessities in short supply -- then there are those lil' spiral things kids take to school to occupy their minds which should be focused on studying

3. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (10/15/2017 6:52:41 PM)
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Tough question as phrased. Tough question indeed, but instead of answering it as stated I'd rephrase it as follows (and here's why) ...

The Why's (in no particular order):
Each of the possible answers is in it's own category of high tech. Apple is a Hardware AND Software company; Microsoft is essentially an Operating System (Specialized Software) company; Google is a Search Engine; Facebook is a Social Media company; and Amazon is an Internet Retailer. So each of the possible answers is in its' own niche market w/in the high tech industry so that limits the competition between them meaning investing in one doesn't necessarily "cover the market".

The Re-phrasal: "If you could turn back the clock, which one or more of these tech companies would you invest in?" (emphasis mine)

Sooooo ... while I wouldn't place my bets on/in every single one, I would grab a little here and a little there so to speak.

And remembering that we're talking about stepping back in time and buying it a while back, I'm talking long term investments (my preference) and not really buying low and selling high for the quick profit.

Thus Apple and Amazon would be my first choices and then if I had any "free money" left uninvested, I'd finish up w/ a smattering of Google.

The Reasoning: High Tech is the wave of the future; everything is going to end up computerized to some extent sooner or later so in the long run it's not going to be a loser of an investment industry. By spreading the wealth a little more than by simply investing in a single company I'd end up putting some of my eggs in one basket and some in another so I wouldn't lose everything if my one choice tanked for some reason.

All that said though, High Tech isn't the "Be All, End All" Industry so there are quite a few other Industries and Niches that deserve their own fair share of investment long term as well.

Editor's Note: Hi Tams, since I just posted this and find your comment about "which one or more" made a lot of sense, I added that to the selection above.


Message edited by user at 10/15/2017 7:03:57 PM

4. Andy White CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (10/15/2017 7:53:32 PM)
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There are only two ways to make money in the securities markets: Value and dividends.

If you understand that investing is predicting with knowledge tempered by dispassion, the answer(s) should be clear.

Turning back the clock, therefore, is unnecessary.

5. D James
     (10/15/2017 8:03:46 PM)
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A major freight railroad. They use tech and muscle and brains to supply the Nation.

6. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (10/15/2017 8:15:59 PM)
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I invested very early in Facebook and held the stock through the initial ups and downs. I knew it was going to grow wildly just given the younger folks in my family reaction to the application. I love tech stocks.

Unfortunately, Facebook is now facing a lot of challenges with fake news and russia and the election. Not sure how that will all pan out.

I didn't invest in Google and I wish that I had. I like the diversification of Google. I invested in Amazon, but got out after while. This one too I wish I had stayed in, but you can't win them all.

I think that wisely purchased tech stocks along with small cap and large cap industrial stocks provide for good growth opportunities. Right now, I'm almost all stocks. It's been a very good year. I'll probably pull back a bit in 2018 and buy some gold as I don't trust Trump not to blow up the world--or at least do his damnedest. If he doesn't get a tax bill passed, the market will tank and everyone needs to be prepared. I do not want to be in all stocks if this happens.

I have a trusted financial advisor who I talked with every couple weeks. He's as good as they come in my book, but he's not a miracle maker. No one is.

7. Andy White CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (10/15/2017 9:15:43 PM)
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Here, from MarketWatch are seven questions to ask of or about someone who claims to be a 'financial advisor.' It keeps them honest, because most aren't.

1. Are you a registered investment adviser?

If the answer is no, this adviser is a broker. Smile sweetly and say good-bye. If the answer is yes, he or she is required by law to be a fiduciary. But you still need to figure out if this fiduciary is wearing one hat or two. That’s because Its not enough that your financial adviser is an independent RIA. You need to be careful that the RIA is not also a broker.

You heard that right. In a strangely allowable arrangement, an RIA can be both a broker and a fiduciary in a process called “dual registration.” When someone is “dually registered,” at one moment they play the part of an unbiased adviser, reassuring you that they abide by the fiduciary standard and can provide you with conflict-free advice for a fee. But they can switch hats and act as a broker, earning commissions or kickbacks by selling you specific products. When they’re playing this broker role, they no longer have to abide by the fiduciary standard. In other words, they’re sometimes obliged to serve your best interests and sometimes not. How warped is that? These arrangements are perhaps the most dangerous for consumers as it creates immense confusion.

2. Are you or your firm affiliated with a broker-dealer?

If the answer is yes, you’re dealing with someone who can act as a broker and usually has an incentive to steer you to specific investments. One easy way to figure this out is to glance at the bottom of the adviser’s website or business card and see if there’s a sentence like this: “Securities offered through [adviser’s company name], member FINRA and SIPC.” This refers to the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority and the Securities Investor Protection Corporation, respectively. If you see these words, it means he or she can act as a broker. If so, run. Run for your life!

3. Does your firm offer proprietary mutual funds or separately managed accounts?

You want the answer to be an emphatic “no.” If the answer is yes, then watch your wallet. It probably means they’re looking to generate additional revenues by steering you into these products that are highly profitable for them (but probably not for you).

4. Do you or your firm receive any third-party compensation for recommending particular investments?

This is the ultimate question you want answered. Why? Because you need to know that your adviser has no incentive to recommend products that will shower him or her with commissions, kickbacks, consulting fees, trips, or other goodies.

5. What’s your philosophy when it comes to investing?

This will help you to understand whether or not the adviser believes that he or she can beat the market by picking individual stocks or actively managed funds.

6. What financial planning services do you offer beyond investment strategy and portfolio management?

Investment help may be all you need, depending on your stage of life. But as you grow older and/or you become more wealthy with various holdings to manage, things often become more complex financially. For example, you may need to deal with saving for a child’s college education, retirement planning, handling your vested stock options, or estate planning. Most advisers have limited capabilities once they venture beyond investing. In fact, most aren’t legally allowed to offer tax advice due to their broker status. Ideally you want an adviser who can bring tools for tax efficiency in all aspects of your planning — from investment planning to business planning to estate planning.

7. Where will my money be held?

A fiduciary adviser should always use a third-party custodian to hold your funds. For example, Fidelity, Schwab, and TD Ameritrade all have custodial arms that will keep your money in a secure environment. You then sign a limited power of attorney that gives the adviser the right to manage the money but never to make withdrawals. The good news about this arrangement is that if you ever want to fire your adviser, you don’t have to move your accounts. You can simply hire a new adviser who can take over managing your accounts without missing a beat. This custodial system also protects you from the danger of getting fleeced by a con man like Bernie Madoff.
If you want to check on someone, go here to the SEC:

Happy investing.

8. Rick T CEOExpressSelect Member
     (10/15/2017 10:31:30 PM)
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Had I had the money, I would have bought Apple, Google, and Amazon.

Now, my moneys in Vanguard. Vanguard invest in indexes. That's working well.

Message edited by user at 10/15/2017 11:49:17 PM

9. Scott Walker
     (10/15/2017 11:30:35 PM)
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If the clock could be turned back, would buy more amazon. Bought 500 shares in 2009 for 81, if Iran deal is reinstated its time to sell.

10. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (10/16/2017 6:30:20 AM)
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Vanguard is a good place to have your money.
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