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Do you think it's more effective to be for or against something or someone?

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539. Kerry Strong
     (6/7/2018 2:45:21 PM)
     Message ID #305277

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..Do you find you are more persuasive when you are for or against the question?

⬜ Against

Does it matter if its internal or external?

⬜Not too much. I am GENERALLY FOR something, unless I am SPECIFICALLY AGAINST it. I find it less necessary to justify the things I support than the things I am against. I take rejecting a thought, idea or option seriously, because I feel like it is eliminating the possibility of an opportunity within that option. You must be prudent when eliminating possibilities because lost opportunities easily become increased limitations. Increased limitations can be a show stopper.

⬜If I am against something, You bet I am going to have good, solid reasoning that is well researched and worth defending.(That is given the time and opportunity.) If I need to make an on the spot decision I tend to go with the least potential to cause damage, loss or harm. At the point you have to make an uninformed, on the spot decision, something has already gone terribly wrong and you are now in the "controlled damage" vs "damage control" zone.

⬜Also, where do I stand as far as the weight of my decision. If it is about a job, or investment, I am the sole decision maker and for better or worse only I suffer the consequences. (Not as heavy). Between the two, I would much rather make a bad investment decision than detrimental "personal happiness" decision such as a new job.

⬜As far as candidates - it's hit or miss. I have made spontaneous Yes decisions that caused me long term regret. I can't remember a "no " decision that I've regretted for too long. Dealing with lost opportunity is a lot less painful than a decision that is going to haunt you for weeks, months or even years. Besides, if it is in any way possible, I try to crack a window open before I close the door. You know, just in case...

..we think we have to influence others. Does the audience dictate your tactics?

⬜Of course, a heated political debate with my father or significant other or even my adult daughter will all sound like entirely different conversations. I mean if you're not arguing to be influential, then why are you arguing at all? Just to make your opinion known? That's silly.

Do you find it necessary to counter every argument you hear? ⬜Occasionally. Depends on who's involved in the mix. If I know you to be a "surface level" decision maker, I will always argue to test the waters -- basically the litmus test of decisions. If you have a solid and passionate opinion of a topic, I can very easily be swayed. Sometimes I argue because I WANT to be proven wrong, PLEASE enlighten me. I live for those "arguments lost".

How hard is it to be against something (or someone) and not be seen as negative?

⬜ Ummm. Honestly I don't know and I don't care. It was recently pointed out that I am always pointing out the worst case scenarios. Not just in the office. I am my daughters dream crusher. That sucked to hear. I have had to restrain myself from enlightening people "for their own good" lol. Apparently, it can be a real downer. Lesson learned.

Advantages to smiling and nodding and leaving your position ambiguous? ⬜Yes. Sometimes the garden weeds itself.

What does it take to change your position?
⬜See above. I would reward you with shiny stones and doughnut holes.

538. D James
     (1/8/2018 4:47:54 AM)
     Message ID #296393

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Christie wasn't the AG. He was the US Attorney for northern NJ. Did more to assure NJ would become a reliable Demo voting state than any known lefty could've done.

537. Joseph Lischka CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/7/2018 10:07:33 PM)
     Message ID #296392

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Once again, what's your point?

536. D Robb
     (1/7/2018 9:14:19 PM)
     Message ID #296391

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Kevin, isn't there something you have some knowledge of and can share? Posting about others is the lowest form of social discourse and the last refuge of the ignorant.

535. Kevin V
     (1/7/2018 8:58:18 PM)
     Message ID #296390

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Da Robb...

Projecting liberal values once again?

Progressive Socialist Liberals = Hypocrites; are always telling everyone else they posses the very values they adore.

You my friend are the poster child for that alternate universe.

Couldn't you have simply left the country with all the rest of your tribe who promised to do so once he won office?

Do as you say, not as you do. If you and your tribe want to help, simply write the check to the check to the IRS. No one is stopping you.

You and your tribe had eight good years to run up the deficit to 20 trillion. Don't be a hatter, live with the new boss in town.

534. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/7/2018 8:49:09 PM)
     Message ID #296389

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He was convicted of 18 counts of illegal campaign contributions, 1 count of tax evasion, 1 count of witness tampering, his brother in law. Plead out to then AG Chris Christy

533. D James
     (1/7/2018 8:24:14 PM)
     Message ID #296388

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Your respondent commentary is par for the course. Expect nothing and you’ll have your expectations fulfilled. This is quite a forum.

532. D Robb
     (1/7/2018 8:12:28 PM)
     Message ID #296387

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It is hard to follow some arguments on the forum because trump has led us so far astray that no one talks any longer about what is moral and what is not. What is acceptable behavior or what is unacceptable. What improves the country or what makes it worse. Everything is filtered through the lens of politics. Is it Democratic or Republican, left or right? That seems to be the only thing that matters.
Therefore, we no longer have FACTs or truth. We have alternative facts, or just repeated lies.
Evangelicals attempt to portray themselves as men of God, but they are more interested in power than spirituality. We should vote for a serial sexual predator or pedophile because his opponent is a Democrat. Appointing judges who will overturn abortion and same sex marriage is more important than…anything. Getting tax cuts for the rich is more important than the future of America or the health and welfare of children.
There are glimmers that things are turning around. Women are getting much more involved in politics at all levels, and polls indicate that a majority of voters favor Democrats in the coming election.

531. Joseph Lischka CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/7/2018 7:48:29 PM)
     Message ID #296386

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And your point is....?

530. Joseph Lischka CEOExpressSelect Member
     (1/7/2018 7:45:24 PM)
     Message ID #296385

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Sorry, I thought you were talking to yourself. What are those points again?
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