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1. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 7:55:34 AM)
     Message ID #294849

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He's right, M. Over the past few months I have asked various people for the source that empowers morality. Is it god? Is it man? Is it aliens from outer space?

No answers.

Morality has no source of authority. It is not found in nature. It is a secular form of religion that we are anesthetized with in doses that prevent us from seeing that the secret to the game is to do whatever you must to get to the top.

There are only two types of people anywhere near the top of our food chain... gangsters and accidents. There is only one kind at the very top.

It seems to me that most of the conspiracy theories are actually reality - and that the real conspiracy is morality.

We can do better. We can become the source of morality ourselves. But not until we understand that we live in a food chain... and morality does not exist in food chains. Necessity does.

2. M Bathurst
     (12/7/2017 3:41:03 PM)
     Message ID #294869

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But, not for the reason he thinks.

While you may think you are amoral - I think you are fooling yourself a bit.

This will sound a bit corny; but, morality comes a bit from both "god/God" (whatever that may be in one's life) and from within. Most, not all, know what is intrinsically correct; and, try to act based upon that core.

As for the top of the food chain - it would be interesting to learn your definitions of what encompasses a gangster / accident.

Morality and necessity are not necessarily exclusionary. It depends upon the definition of necessity.

Have a grand day.

3. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 4:32:34 PM)
     Message ID #294872

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We agree on the key issues.

Morality is possible when based on that intrinsic knowledge you refer to in people. It is then reflected in the laws which provide the practical application of that morality.

It does not, however, exist in the Lion kingdom. Lions don't obey laws. Similarly, it does not exist in the human kingdom if they (especially those at the top of the food chain) do not obey them.

In this place and time, they do not.

Hence the source of morality - human acknowledgement - has left it swinging in the breeze.

The important thing here is the behavioral cliff at the top of our chain... which recognizes no restraints... and the middle - which fails to understand that the top is living in an amoral vacuum that provides freedoms and activities that they can not even get their arms around.

Activities viewed as conspiracy theories in the middle are everyday realities at the top.

4. M Bathurst
     (12/7/2017 6:33:29 PM)
     Message ID #294876

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Correct, it does not apply in the lion kingdom; nor would I expect it to. While not meaning to insult lions - their thought process is different than a human.

Your comment regarding the "top of the food chain" is correct. For me, the issue is the fact a number of middle of the chain humans don't expect those at the top to "obey the laws". This problem has been building for a long time in our society. This problem really came roaring out of the woodwork with the Clinton Administration and the happy horsedh!t that his/their followers were willing to accept; because it was their guy/gal. In the past, when a Republican "screwed up"; his/her own ate them. Not with the Left. Only now that many Republicans are tired of playing by the "moral" rules; and, have accepted the invitation to play by the Democrat rules are those on the Left crying "ouch".

Daniel Henninger had a good commentary discussing this matter in a related way.

Basically, the Left has lead the dumbing down of society/culture and are now realizing - ooops.
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