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Which theory explains why Trump is now working with the democrats?

He is mad at McConnell and Ryan
He doesnít care about DACA or the debt ceiling
He's trying to focus his party and Congress on tax reform
He has decided to govern from the center
I have another theory



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841. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (9/30/2017 12:40:03 PM)
     Message ID #291303

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The Jones Act also applies to the State of Hawaii equally as it does to any other American state or territory with ports so you would give Puerto Rico (a U.S. Territory) a leg up on a U.S. State????

842. Rick Tye CEOExpressSelect Member
     (9/30/2017 12:43:20 PM)
     Message ID #291304

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It also applies to Alaska but it is an antiquated law the no-longer makes sense. The United States is no-longer in the ship building business. It is done much cheaper elsewhere.

843. Douglas Robb CEOExpressSelect Member
     (9/30/2017 12:51:50 PM)
     Message ID #291305

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NYC does not rely on ships to bring in everything they eat, wear, and buy. Puerto Rico does. It is a real burden on the mostly poor residents.

844. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (9/30/2017 12:53:36 PM)
     Message ID #291306

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The Jones Act applies equally to ALL U.S. States and Territories so what makes Puerto Rico any different from a U.S. State (i.e. Hawaii)????

According to The Merchant Marine Act of 1920 (i.e. The Jones Act) found in Section 46 of the U.S.C., Section 27 states:

"No merchandise, including merchandise owned by the United States Government, a State (as defined in section 2101 of title 46, United States Code), or a subdivision of a State, shall be transported by water, or by land and water, on penalty of forfeiture of the merchandise (or a monetary amount up to the value thereof as determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, or the actual cost of the transportation, whichever is greater, ..."

845. Rick Tye CEOExpressSelect Member
     (9/30/2017 12:55:38 PM)
     Message ID #291307

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Because of the Jones Act, Puerto Rico, Hawaii and Alaska pay twice as much for food and more for everything than do the people of Virgin Islands or Florida.

"The island of Puerto Rico is devastated, with millions lacking power, infrastructure destroyed, homes damaged, and an entire yearís worth of agricultural output essentially ruined. Like any disaster-struck place, it will be in need of supplies brought it from elsewhere in the country.

But getting goods from the US mainland to Puerto Rico is much more expensive than sending them to Texas or even to other Caribbean islands as a result of a century-old man-made disaster thatís been crippling the islandís economy for a long time.

Meet the Jones Act, an obscure 1920 regulation that requires that goods shipped from one American port to another be transported on a ship that is American-built, American-owned, and crewed by US citizens or permanent residents.

For most Americans, this isnít a big deal ó it enriches a small number of American shipowners while introducing some weird distortions into the overall pattern of economic activity in the United States.

For the residents of the island of Puerto Rico, though, the Jones Act is huge. Basic shipments of goods from the island to the US mainland, and vice versa, must be conducted via expensive protected ships rather than exposing them to global competition. That makes everything Puerto Ricans buy unnecessarily expensive relative to goods purchased on either the US mainland or other Caribbean islands, and drives up the cost of living on the island overall. "

Message edited by user at 9/30/2017 12:59:50 PM

846. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (9/30/2017 12:59:57 PM)
     Message ID #291308

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Agreed Rick (it applying to Alaska as well).

And yes, it may be antiquated (and I'm not saying it should still apply) but it's still on the books and until it's stricken from said books it needs to be adhered to.

If Congress wants they could repeal the law and maybe they should but that's for them to accomplish, if they can accomplish anything at all that is.

847. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (9/30/2017 1:00:55 PM)
     Message ID #291309

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Douglas,

See my reply to Rick (post #846).

848. D Robb
     (9/30/2017 1:02:22 PM)
     Message ID #291310

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Right, it's a relic to protect US merchant shipping. Senator McCain is right. Time to do away with it. If we want to subsidize them all Americans should pay.

849. D Robb
     (9/30/2017 1:04:48 PM)
     Message ID #291311

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We agree. trump should change his 10 day waiver "to the duration of the emergency".

850. Tams Bixby CEOExpressSelect Member
     (9/30/2017 1:10:13 PM)
     Message ID #291312

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No, we don't agree (at least not completely and/or in theory anyway) as there's a hell of a difference between "a waiver for the duration of the emergency" as you've stated and the repeal of the Merchant Marine Act of 1920 (i.e. Jones Act) entirely.
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