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When a highly visible someone is accused of 'inappropriate conduct,' how should he (or she) respond?

Stand his (or her) ground if innocent, and await the legal process
Resign, retreat, and/or withdraw
Admit if true, and hope to move on
Something else — what?



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11. scott walker
     (11/15/2017 10:02:09 AM)
     Message ID #293617

This message is in response to D Robb ( message id #293615 )  View All Related Messages

Mitch McConnell spent millions to defeat the candidate Mo Brooks in the Primary, Mo Brooks was and still is the best choice for Alabama What Mitch McConnell did against Mo Brooks is despicable.
The McConnell club needs to be replaced.

12. D Robb
     (11/15/2017 10:17:28 AM)
     Message ID #293618

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Your hypocrisy and double standard is showing. The right believed every fake news article on Secretary Clinton, regardless of the source. One idiot even drove from NC to rescue teen sex slaves from a pizzeria in DC, firing his weapon when he arrived. Despite millions of dollars spent investigating Secretary Clinton by the FBI and Congressional Committees NOTHING was ever found. Are the Hillary Haters satisfied? No. They want more investigations. However, the shoe is on the other foot with Judge “Mary and Joseph” Moore. He was known to stalk and date teenage girls when he was in his thirties. When asked by Hannity he declined to say that was a falsehood. Yes, he is an embarrassment to the GOP because he openly promotes what many, including some on this forum, believe while attempting to create a Christian theocracy.

13. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/15/2017 10:43:24 AM)
     Message ID #293619

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There is no time consistent definition for the phrase 'inappropriate behavior'. It trends.

The way to handle it is for everyone to plead guilty to unspecified acts of 'inappropriate behavior' in the past, present or future - and then to pardon ourselves. Once that table is cleared, we can eliminate the phrase entirely and go back to using the word crime. An act is a crime - or it isn't.

It is a crime not to report a crime. It always has been. So if an accusation is made after the period in which it was supposed to be reported, the accuser should be charged with two crimes: failure to report and slander.

Of course that idea is not as novel as it sounds. It is the way in which our social contract is already written. In fact, the contract frequently stipulates a statute of limitations - specifically for the purpose of protecting people from have to defend themselves from crimes when the evidence is simply no longer reliable.

So - we need do nothing, except honor our own law. Our ancestors were aware of the problem centuries ago - and fixed it.

The real problem...as usual, is that we no longer honor the law. If you don't honor the law - the punishment for a society is violence. Does anyone not recognize that we have begun to pay that price?

When the next person goes racing down the bike lane with a pick up truck - or sprays bullets across one of our beautiful malls - we might actually recognize the counter-intuitive truth that our laws might have stopped that man - if only we believed in them.

14. Andy White CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (11/15/2017 10:47:16 AM)
     Message ID #293620

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Just a snapshot in time, but as I write this, the vote in the forum is skewed toward 'Stand your ground.'

That's fine until an election is next week (month, year), and the press still are grinding away, the accusers never have been deposed, the judge hasn't even lifted a gavel, and the jury hasn't been seated.

Isn't there something ... oh, yeah, the Constitution. It's been so long since I've seen it, I forgot.


15. D Robb
     (11/15/2017 10:57:28 AM)
     Message ID #293621

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Andy, your remarks are interesting because even Fox News host Sean Hannity has given the judge “24 hours” to explain conflicting answers to the sexual misconduct allegations against him.

“You must immediately and fully come up with a satisfactory explanation for your inconsistencies,” Hannity said. “You must remove any doubt. If he can’t do this, then Judge Moore needs to get out of this race.”

What spiked the backlash against Hannity was his intimation that Moore’s encounters with underage girls might have been “consensual,” but he later apologized and said he “misspoke.”

16. D Robb
     (11/15/2017 11:05:00 AM)
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Some would argue that the US Congress is so riddled with sexual predators that another won't matter. Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) informed NBC’s Chuck Todd on Tuesday that $15 million in taxpayer money had been paid out over the years to settle sexual harassment suits filed against members of Congress.

Earlier in the day, Speier testified in front of the House Administration Committee that two members of Congress, a Republican and a Democrat, have engaged in sexual harassment in the past.

17. John Norman CEOExpressSelect Member
     (11/15/2017 11:28:39 AM)
     Message ID #293623

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Does sexual harassment occur in Muslim countries? What's a man to do when a cute girl wears makeup and dresses suggestively. Roy Moore was just overcome with desire when he saw that pretty little thing.

All he could think to do was hide behind the bible and blame the liberal media.

Maybe Christian Sharia law is what we need and you women ( the attractive ones ) should just cover it up.

It's a Trump world now and the rules of inappropriate conduct have changed.

18. Noel Meyer
     (11/15/2017 11:43:30 AM)
     Message ID #293624

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"It's a Trump world now and the rules of inappropriate conduct have changed."

"It's a Trump world now"

Maybe it is. but then "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Women, good looking or not ARE equal American citizens, tough pill for some males to swallow.

Women, good looking or not have EQUAL RIGHTS and the PROTECTIONS they need to be free of intimidation or threat.

You do realize John, that victims can NOT give up their rights when they refuse to press charges against those who do them wrong. LAWS in this country protect all Americans, even victims too afraid to trust that legal system -- that's why the prosecutor works for the state, for society in general.

"Maybe Christian Sharia law is what we need and you women ( the attractive ones ) should just cover it up."

So you want to give males a pass on their discipline and blame the victims? So male soldiers are absolved for raping their female soldiers?

So John, tell me, what protects your wife or daughters from such sexual abuse? What protects your female family from males without the discipline not to attack them?

19. Noel Meyer
     (11/15/2017 11:45:45 AM)
     Message ID #293625

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“You must immediately and fully come up with a satisfactory explanation for your inconsistencies,” Hannity said. “You must remove any doubt. If he can’t do this, then Judge Moore needs to get out of this race.”"

When a highly visible someone is accused of 'inappropriate conduct,' how should he (or she) respond?

D Robb is exactly correct when highly visible people are accused to address such allegations.

20. Noel Meyer
     (11/15/2017 11:50:36 AM)
     Message ID #293626

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"the vote in the forum is skewed toward 'Stand your ground.'

That's fine until an election is next week (month, year), and the press still are grinding away, the accusers never have been deposed, the judge hasn't even lifted a gavel, and the jury hasn't been seated."


Andy, right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of an impending election. Pure hubris. Pure arrogance. Pure "I am above the law" mindset.

People are made and destroyed in the media, facts are believed and dismissed by a turn of a phrase on a newscast. In short, people like those on this very forum give credibility to whatever fits their mindset regardless of our American system of law.
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