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Do you think that the Trump Tax plan will help the middle class?

I have no idea

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1171. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (12/14/2017 10:21:10 AM)
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All I did is print verbatim what was being reported from Business Insider and the Chicago Tribune. Just lists of fact. No more, no less.

I think you are getting a bit too emotional given the last 48 hours and reading your emotion into other's posts. I know Moore not being in the senate is hard to take, but Lordy Robert, all I did was copy and paste.

No personal emotion at all.

I will do very well under the Trump tax plan, so one side of me is, "well, just roll with it"

However, I hate leaving future generations with such massive debt.

If Bob Corker gets his "if the debt goes over (X), things get rolled back" I could go with the plan. However, since the Leaders KNOW that their plan will balloon the debt, that will never happen. Corker will not vote for the plan without it, so I guess it is a good thing for Trump that they are steamrolling this thing through before Jones comes to town.

Oh, and your memory is short.

I was a big critic of Obama. I never voted for him and thought he was giving away the store. However, I gave him credit where credit was due and I thought Obamacare was a logical first step in providing the right of health to Americans.

I have screamed about Bush causing massive debt and a completely horribly mistaken war in Iraq.

I have always voted Republican until Cheeto came along.

1170. Noel Meyer
     (12/14/2017 9:12:07 AM)
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FCC to decide fate of Net Neutrality today.

3 republican FCC directors said to be voting to end neutrality.

Trump personally holding up Government reaction to the threat of Russian involvement in American elections

Trump daily briefing said to have to avoid information bad about Russia to avoid upsetting Trump

Trump did create a committee looking into 3 million illegals who he says voted for Hillary in 2016

Nero played his fiddle while Rome burned,

Trump fiddled around while everyone but Trump agrees that Russia is meddling our elections and elections in the West.

1169. Noel Meyer
     (12/14/2017 8:54:20 AM)
     Message ID #295207

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" Under Bush and Obama, it cost us more than a trillion per year."

Bush started TWO failed wars

Bush had the largest recession since the great depression

Bush made foreign banks WHOLE but gave only partial help to American companies.

Obama got stuck with Bush's policies of nation building in Iraq

Obama go stuck with saving American companies "too BIG to fail"

Obama was the one who held some of those companies who caused the recession accountable

All the while both parties in CONGRESS continued to spend, spend, spend.

But blame who you want to make Trump look like a savior and not a failure.

1168. Noel Meyer
     (12/14/2017 8:48:38 AM)
     Message ID #295206

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If Trump stopped making foreign policy failures like recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel


If Trump stopped giving the richest individuals and corporations PERMANENT tax cuts adding $1.5 TRILLION to the deficit

perhaps we could pay that debt down over the next decade.

1167. Noel Meyer
     (12/14/2017 8:44:07 AM)
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Omarosa resigns. Swears she was not fired by either Trump or John Kelly. Says she and Kelly talked in the situation room where she resigned. Secret Service is said to have deactivated her 'advanced' security pass.

So people get fired, so people resign, so others bow out. Omarosa says that over the last year she saw many things that made her concerned. Omarosa sets up her book deal as she will tell her story as the as the only African American woman in the Trump Administration.

Fired? Resigned? Going to make big bucks from her book? When added to the insider trading granted to Congress people is it any reason pedophiles like Moore want to join that club?

1166. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/14/2017 8:22:34 AM)
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All of the homes in America are cumulatively worth about 30 trillion. Only about half of that is equity. So if everyone of us sold our homes, used the money to pay the debt - and lived on the street out of shopping carts... we wouls still have a long way to go. But then, if we all sold our homes at once, the housing market would crash and many people would get no equity at all.

We didn't have this debt two decades ago.

I don't recall whether you lashed Bush for his role in the theft. I know you never called out Obama for doubling it on the pretext of fixing it.

So now Donald Trump comes along with a complex, but plausible plan (I would go with a 'hail mary plan' if you wish.) - and you fly into a tizzy because it will cost a trillion or so over a decade. Under Bush and Obama, it cost us more than a trillion per year.

I assume YOU have an idea. A much better one.

Don't whine about the man fixing the problem (I don't expect it to work, mystelf... but sitting here waiting to be taken over by foreigners is even bleaker). But I have already thought about selling all of our house and living out of shopping carts - and it wasn't enough.

Thank god you have a better idea.

What is it?

Message edited by user at 12/14/2017 8:25:44 AM

1165. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/14/2017 6:48:12 AM)
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No, absolute crazy talk.

But if I were Manaforts' Attorney I would claim the investigation was prejudicial and bias, using the FBI's own disciplinary actions as evidence. Chances are pretty good a judge would overturn the case on appeal.

The people are chasing their tails.....time to stop

Any ganja today M?

1164. Noel Meyer
     (12/14/2017 5:28:49 AM)
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Is Trump setting up an impeachment defense to get a pardon?

1163. Noel Meyer
     (12/14/2017 5:19:52 AM)
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Alabamans spank Trump

1162. D Robb
     (12/14/2017 2:45:21 AM)
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The trump administration war with itself continues. Tillerson offered to sit down with N Korea without pre-conditions. That offer was shot down by the WH. The bone spur guy doesn’t seem to have a foreign policy which makes it hard for his Secretary of State do his job.
If it wasn't so dangerous and scary, it would make a great reality TV show, or is that what it is?
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