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1. Noel Meyer
     (12/7/2017 9:39:56 AM)
     Message ID #294856

This message is in response to Domenick Aulozzi ( message id #294851 )  Back To All Messages

"Noel, your ignorance is showing again. The president of the United States does not determine what city is the capital of any sovereign country. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel because that is what the people of Israel determined almost 70 years ago."

Funny how you completely ignore the fact that the Palestinians determined Jerusalem was the capital of their nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp40Uztk3bg

Trump's decision (in his own words)that HE determined it was time to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Turkey, the Pope, France and other nations said was wrong.

2. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 11:49:14 AM)
     Message ID #294858

This message is in response to Noel Meyer ( message id #294856 )  Back To All Messages

Under the Constitution, the President has exclusive authority to recognize foreign sovereignty over territory.

Under that authority, President Clinton refused to sign the Jerusalem Embassy Act passed by Congress in 1995. Donald Trump is now President, and that authority is entirely his.

Jerusalem is not the Capitol of Palestine, it is the Capitol of Israel... in which the tongue-in-cheek State of Palestine and the Jewish occupied territories co-exist.

It is a political act designed to signal that the idea of a separate Palestinian State is no longer on the table. Rightfully so... since it never succeeded in moving the Arabs to agree to a just resolution in the area. Why should they? America, Israel and others are paying all of their bills.

3. Noel Meyer
     (12/7/2017 10:54:16 AM)
     Message ID #294859

This message is in response to Robert Fahrbach ( message id #294858 )  Back To All Messages

Robert -
"Under the Constitution, the President has exclusive authority to recognize foreign sovereignty over territory."

Then I hope you have faith in Trump's instincts when he pisses Mainland China off by having conversations and recognizing Taiwan.

The President also has the ability to denounce ultra right white supremacy and racism, something he was reluctant to do in Charlotte.

Russia, China, France, Germany, Turkey and other nations argued against Trump's EXCLUSIVE AUTHORITY decision but then in this troubled time who needs the other powerful powers support in putting out terrorism?

Fools go where angels fear to tread. Trump angers and alienates OUR allies, antagonizes OUR enemies and generally feels entitled to do just what-ever he feels like because his life of entitlement and ignorance of how the national and international political world operates.

"It is a political act designed to signal that the idea of a separate Palestinian State is no longer on the table. Rightfully so"

YOUR OPINION. Wonder what Tillerson thinks. Other world leaders give this political act an "F".

How will the Israelis react and how will American civilians react when 'reaction' to this stupid political act sparks increased violence?

So under Trump America faces a possible nuclear war which only China can prevent from North Korea and an eruption of violence in the oil rich Middle East which is in our trust of Netanyahu and his political agenda in Israel.

I thought it was 'America first' not 'America becoming the bit$h of the crazies in this world.

4. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 12:05:39 PM)
     Message ID #294860

This message is in response to Noel Meyer ( message id #294859 )  Back To All Messages

You needn't hope. I trust President Trump's instincts over yours.

5. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 11:18:29 AM)
     Message ID #294862

This message is in response to Noel Meyer ( message id #294859 )  Back To All Messages

My generation will never solve Mideast peace in that region regarding Israel.

We failed.

25 to 35 years of futility, hatred, bombings, death.

The only country in the region with a western style democracy, where it's people are prosperous. Women are free, human rights are respected.

Perhaps the next generation, or perhaps the generation after that.

Every President pledged to do this going back to Clinton, they all failed. We failed.

Time to move on and be done with it.

6. D James
     (12/7/2017 5:22:09 PM)
     Message ID #294863

This message is in response to Noel Meyer ( message id #294856 )  Back To All Messages

The last time I looked there is not nor has there ever been a "nation" of Palestine. The modern "Palestine" is a figment of the demented and murderous mind of one Yassir Arafat, an Egyptian who was expelled from his native land for incitement to violence. Israel took Jerusalem in its entirety via force of arms from Jordan during the 67 War. The Islamists had chosen to use many of the Jewish and Christian Holy sites as urinals and worse.

The President is doing what was promised by Boy Clinton in the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capitol, and followed by GWB, and Barry Soetoro who all did nothing. Trump is spot on correct. An analogy: would the US have its Embassy to the UK in Nottingham or Liverpool when the national capitol is London? Having the USEMB to Israel in Tel Aviv merely conveniences the State Dept party goers who love the TA night life but will actually be in more austere surrounding in Jerusalem. And by the way, Jerusalem is not mentioned , even once, In the Koran. So much for it being the "4th Holiest City" to that cult that beheads c/o the Prophet on the White Horse.

7. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 12:22:14 PM)
     Message ID #294864

This message is in response to D James ( message id #294863 )  Back To All Messages

Palestine is a legal entity (though exactly what kind of entity is up in the air) - but Jerusalem in not a legal part of it.

8. D Robb
     (12/7/2017 11:45:33 AM)
     Message ID #294865

This message is in response to Robert Fahrbach ( message id #294864 )  Back To All Messages

Perhaps in your alternative facts universe, but not in the real world. The best solution would be to make Jerusalem and open city as part of a peace treaty. This illegal and unilateral action will please right wing nuts, especially Evangelicals who believe it is necessary for the end times. American Jews don't support it or Netanyahu.
It just makes the US more unimportant and marginalized

9. Robert Fahrbach CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/7/2017 11:34:15 AM)
     Message ID #294866

This message is in response to D Robb ( message id #294865 )  Back To All Messages

Lol. Congrats. You managed a sentence full of words that don't contain a single letter of truth.

Let us in on your secret... are you the dumbest person in the world... or just the most dishonest???

(My guest is BOTH.)

10. D James
     (12/7/2017 12:26:02 PM)
     Message ID #294873

This message is in response to Robert Fahrbach ( message id #294864 )  Back To All Messages

Not a "nation". Strictly a spot on the map hosting various marauder tribes.
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