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Do you believe a coronavirus vaccine will be the cure for the plummeting economy?

It is more complicated than a yes or no

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1. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (8/4/2020 5:33:48 AM)
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The coronavirus is continuing to ravage much of the US with a renewed spike in increasing hospitalizations and deaths. The administration has stated that vaccine development is moving forward at "warp speed" and that there may be a vaccine available by the end of 2020 or beginning of 2021.

Since the US, unlike many 1st world countries, appears to be incapable or unwilling to managing the virus, is a vaccine the only way to stop the free fall of the economy. If so, how will this happen?

Will there be enough doses of the vaccine to change the trajectory?

Who will get the vaccine first?

Will the vaccine be safe having been developed faster than any other vaccine?

What are your concerns?

What are your hopes?

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2. T Cavanagh CEOExpressSelect Member
     (8/4/2020 5:57:32 AM)
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Yup, here we go! Right in the thick of it!

Boy, did I call that one. Dissing the Trump vaccine already. Wow!

I do know one thing, Bidenomics is no cure, that is for sure, and itís moving so far left, my head is spinning.

More taxes, more regs, dismantling the energy sector, American troops stationed around the world, paying everybody to stay home and drink is not the answer

This too will soon pass. The economic fundamentals are still intact, the trade deals are in place, USMCA, tariffs on China, the problem is Biden doesnít know who the enemy is, he thinks itís a virus

Itís China. God help us!

3. Michael O'Neill
     (8/4/2020 6:15:28 AM)
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Dumping Trump is the cure for the economy. How many more iterations of failed trickle-down must we have before it's declared a failure? No, before the virus, it wasn't " the greatest economy in history." By the numbers it wasn't even in the top 20. But you wonder how people get conned with scams, then you look at Trump voters and you realize there's a whole base ripe for the picking if you can sell them a marketing snow job, which is Trump's strength. Trump is the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time. A fact and advisor ignorer. A lazy man unwilling to put in any of the work necessary to lead a country.

4. T Cavanagh CEOExpressSelect Member
     (8/4/2020 6:32:36 AM)
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Interesting take on a bottom up economy, as opposed to a top down example such as Obamanomics, triple money supply, bad trade deals, export factory jobs, essentially benefits the wealthy, which is exactly what happened

5. Noel Meyer
     (8/4/2020 6:32:47 AM)
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* "Dissing the Trump vaccine already." is absurd. Trump claimed NO RESPONSIBILITY for ANYTHING, HIS WORDS! Trump hastily started calling the virus "Kung Flu" or the "China virus" to turn his failures in defending the nation from this threat and now his loyal followers are calling any vaccine, the TRUMP vaccine, trying to steal the glory for a botched defense of the nation. Just asking -- what if the vaccine is one developed in Great Britain? Is that still the TRUMP VACCINE?

* CONGRESS authorized the taxpayer dollars for research into vaccines so how can Trump claim sole credit for any vaccine developed? If it is an AMERICAN based vaccine that is chosen, just call it American Vaccine or the (insert name of company where it was developed) vaccine so people know who to blame if problems develop.

Will there be enough doses of the vaccine to change the trajectory?** Over what period of time? "Enough" doses over SIX MONTHS? Over a year? TRUMP continues 7 months after the start of the virus to tell Americans ANYONE WHO WANTS A TEST CAN GET ONE and yet many Americans have never been tested and those who have did not get test results till 22 days AFTER they got tested.

Who will get the vaccine first?
** The poor, minorities, the elderly anyone who can be the ginnypigs for the vaccine before the rich, the famous, the 'connected' to prove the vaccine is safe and it works
* From the way Jared Kushner and the Trump Administration dragged their feet when they "thought" the virus would only hit BLUE STATES and thus did not ramp up testing capability, I'm guessing that RED STATES like Georgia, Texas, Florida, Arizona and other Republican controlled states will get the most of the first vaccines.

Will the vaccine be safe having been developed faster than any other vaccine?
** I'd hate to be the CDC or FDA guy who clears the vaccine for use as safe considering how Trump has thrown his medical experts from his CORONAVIRUS TASK FORCE to the dogs, staining their careers just for disagreeing with him. Imagine the FDA clearing a vaccine which then proves to be useless or worse harmful to the elderly, the young or those with PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS

What are your concerns?
* Trump & Kushner's special "sweet heart deals" with vaccine developers will allow BIG PHARMA to reap a HUGE PROFIT if any vaccine is cleared whether safe, effective or not because the 'government seal of approval' will justify selling it to the public and partially indemnify those manufacturers

What are your hopes?
* Trump and his ADMINISTRATION get voted out in November
* Trump and his crooks don't destroy the nation before a new administration can take over
* That some authority BESIDES TRUMP's "gut" controls and leads the nation out of danger
* That the "sweet heart deals" Trump and Kushner have already signed keep the BIG PHARMA from raping the average American citizen over the cost of questionable and only temporary vaccines requiring MULTIPLE doses

6. Noel Meyer
     (8/4/2020 6:35:40 AM)
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should have been guinea pigs not ginnypigs

7. Noel Meyer
     (8/4/2020 6:37:15 AM)
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Just wondering, did someone MISPLACE the poll from yesterday? Did Trump and his Administration ERASE it because it was critical of his coronavirus efforts?

One minute its there, next minute its gone like it never existed......

8. Noel Meyer
     (8/4/2020 6:45:55 AM)
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Trump is claiming some pretty extraordinary executive powers:

* first that the federal government should get a "cut" from the mandatory sale of a foreign software application to an American company for making that application so valuable

* next AS THE REPUBLICAN controlled SENATE flouders over Phase IV stimulus bill protecting Americans from EVICTIONS, Trump (to protect Republicans from being blamed claims executive power to mandate a nation-wide moratorium on evictions

* Then Trump claims that he can (by EXECUTIVE ORDER ALONE) reverse the governor of Nevada's decision on MAIL-IN BALLOTING. I thought that was a "state's right issue", Trump had been BIG on abandoning all responsibility for fighting the coronavirus to the states, but apparently takes exception when the states determine how local elections are to be run IF Trump believes it will harm Republican interests

Can anyone point out which laws expressly allow Trump to do any of these three things?

I ask because if a coronavirus vaccine is not the cure for the plummeting economy, and it is really Trump's botched TRADE WARS, Trump's failed grasp of underlying economic issues like spending trillions bailing out big corporate REPUBLICAN DONORS while allowing small businesses to flounder without adequate financial stimulus NO VACCINE will cure Trump's plummeting economy.

9. D Robb
     (8/4/2020 7:34:29 AM)
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I took your question as being "will the virus cure the economy before the election?" The answer to that is clearly NO. Eventually, a year from now I think it will.
There are so many uncertainties. What will the effectiveness of the vaccine be? How many people will be willing to take it?
Normally, my wife and I take 2-3 trips out of the country every year. Neither of us will get on a plane until we have had the vaccine.
Our first attempt at going to dinner at a "nice" restaurant was not satisfactory. We have a favorite restaurant for breakfast that provides good service and food even now, but that is the extent of our going out to eat now.
We were going to travel to Europe to get a new car and drive it around to visit friends. That has been postponed.

10. Michael O'Neill
     (8/4/2020 7:45:49 AM)
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Obama has nothing to do with the Trump disaster, but your attempt to deflect is noted.
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